Top 10 List: Most Popular Unique Cards in the Game

I am looking to Capitalize on Democritus's special for a deck. So besides putting 9x Dreams of the Sphinx, House of Sorrow and Ivory Bow in the deck, how else can I get maximum "screw you with intentional contesting" out of my deck?

[ quoted text not captured ] 10 more: The Barrens Heidelberg The Parthenon Carlton Mylan J.S. Tasha Mr. Bowl of Convergence Heart of Nizchetus The retainers can be subbed out for things like Fame. Or, you can think about what sorts of unique cards screw you. Maybe you run Sengir Dagger because you really don't want to see someone else with it. Or, try to Alastor Ankara Citadel into play.

On Sep 17, 9:44 am, Curevei <Cure...@aol.com> wrote: > On Sep 17, 9:34 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: > > > I am looking to Capitalize on Democritus's special for a deck. > > > So besides putting 9x Dreams of the Sphinx, House of Sorrow and Ivory > > Bow in the deck, how else can I get maximum "screw you with > > intentional contesting" out of my deck? > > 10 more: > > The Barrens > Heidelberg > The Parthenon Argh. Information Highway would be popular, though someone may not care a lot about giving it up.

[ quoted text not captured ] But contesting is completely random!!?!!

[ quoted text not captured ] ? Purposefully including lots of unique library cards increases the random chance of contesting unique library cards being an issue. What's your point?

XZealot" <xze...@cox.net> wrote [ quoted text not captured ] What about really opening things up old skool decks style with some Lasombra? splash or otherwise.. with Political Seizure in the mix?... Master, 2 pool, Lasombra, U/PL Master. Choose a location controlled by another Methuselah. This card contests that location as though it were the same card, even if the other location is not unique. When the last copy of that location is yielded, burn this card; the other card comes into play under your control untapped instead of being burned. Aside from the DOM crossover, some for and even pre action is fairly easy to get in there. Not bad.

On Sep 17, 9:34 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] run with weenie Lasombra and Political Seizure (many locations that I would include in the list are removed because of this card) tier 1 (for this deck) Heart of N'cheat'us Carlton Van Wick Mylan Partheon Aranthebes PENTIX SUBVERSION Enkil Cog Anthelios (just because) tier 2 Info Highway Fail Safe Anarch Troublemaker Fame Jake Washington Tasha Morgan J.S. Simons Sagon Fragment Ossian Bowl of Convergence

[ quoted text not captured ] Ventrue headquarters may be to good for this deck not to include, as I believe you will be parity shifting and want a rumors in play also a couple of skill cards for obedience/second tradition Seal of Veddartha ?

On Sep 17, 9:34 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] I see you like the idea ;) I ran Ventrue HQ and Elysium: PV which, while not extremely popular, are very abusable with House of Sorrow. Info Highway, Barrens, Dreams were the more contestable cards, then I also ran Esgrima and Coven for more House o' fun. I expect that House of Sorrow itself will become a very popular card and worth having Democritus to defend. There could be different flavors of the deck: -Camarilla toys (think Elysium: Arboretum) -Voting toys (Ventrue HQ, Elysium: PV -Screw your deck by contesting everything super good (how about PB: Montreal?) With the voting version, I got 25 votes between Democritus, WIlhelm, Helena Casimir, and Natasha Volfcheck and mostly permanents. Brandon

On Sep 17, 12:50 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Is yours posted? Here is a rough draft of mine. Deck Name : Democritus is MINE! Author : Norman S. Brown Jr Description : Contest! Contest! Contest! Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 5 max: 10 average: 7.66667 ------------------------------------------------------------ 3x Democritus 10 DOM PRE aus cel for justicar Ventrue:1 3x Anson 8 CEL PRE aus dom prince Toreador:1 1x Theo Bell Adv 7 CEL POT PRE aus dom Brujah:2 2x Theo Bell 7 POT cel dom pre Brujah:2 1x Rake 6 PRE aus cel pot prince Brujah:1 1x Victoria Ash 6 PRE aus cel dom primogen Toreador:2 1x Ramiel DuPre 5 PRE aus cel dom Toreador:1 Library (90 cards) ------------------------------------------------------------ Action (11) 1x Aranthebes, The Immortal 5x Govern the Unaligned 5x Legal Manipulations Action Modifier (10) 4x Conditioning 1x Enkil Cog 1x Forced March 4x Voter Captivation Action Modifier/Reaction (4) 4x Scalpel Tongue Ally (3) 1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter) 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin) 1x Ossian Combat (10) 10x Majesty Equipment (4) 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Heart of Nizchetus 1x Ivory Bow 1x Sargon Fragment, The Master (26) 2x Anarch Troublemaker 8x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Failsafe 1x Fame 1x House of Sorrow 1x Information Highway 1x Jake Washington (Hunter) 1x Parthenon, The 2x Pentex(TM) Subversion 8x Villein Political Action (7) 7x Parity Shift Reaction (13) 9x Deflection 4x On the Qui Vive Retainer (2) 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq. 1x Tasha Morgan Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. (Thu Sep 17 13:18:59 2009)

[ quoted text not captured ] I think he's just purposefully interjecting an allusion to that other thread (losing the uniqueness lottery in your crypt selection) that he knows[*] has no purpose in this thread (library selection). * Note the extraneous punctuation.

[ quoted text not captured ] ventrue headquaters and monastery of shadows maybe a creepshow casino if no Lasombra 2nd trad/obedience work well w/ Enkil Cog, but maybe not for this deck Anthelios sweet anthelios, also one Golconda and Hostile Takeover Heidlberg?

On Sep 17, 11:40 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Here's my less tuned version from my blog (http:// brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/2009/09/32-celeritus-ventrue.html) Deck Name : Celeritus Ventrue Author : Brandon Haas Description : The deck in which bad crypt cards see play. Crypt [13 vampires] ------------------------------------------------------------ 4x Democritus 10 DOM PRE aus cel for justicar Ventrue:1 3x Natasha Volfchek 9 FOR PRE cel dom pot primogen Ventrue:1 2x Helena Casimir 9 DOM POT PRE cel for primogen Ventrue:1 2x Melissa Barton 5 cel dom for pre Ventrue:1 1x Wilhelm Waldburg 9 DOM FOR PRE aus cel prince Ventrue:2 1x Violette Prentiss 4 PRE dom Ventrue:1 Library [90 cards] ------------------------------------------------------------ Action [11] 1x Charming Lobby 3x Dark Mirror of the Mind 3x Enchant Kindred 2x Entrancement 2x Scouting Mission Action Modifier [19] 2x Alacrity 4x Bewitching Oration 6x Forced March 4x Freak Drive 3x Voter Captivation Action Modifier/Reaction [4] 4x Scalpel Tongue Combat [10] 10x Majesty Master [17] 1x Barrens, The 1x Coven, The 1x Creepshow Casino 1x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Elysium: The Palace of Versailles 1x Esgrima 2x House of Sorrow 2x Information Highway 4x Minion Tap 1x Ventrue Headquarters 2x Vessel Political Action [19] 1x Anarchist Uprising 1x Ancient Influence 1x Banishment 1x Consanguineous Boon 1x Domain Challenge 4x Honor the Elders 6x Kine Resources Contested 3x Neonate Breach 1x Political Stranglehold Reaction [10] 8x Deflection 2x On the Qui Vive Interesting how we got decks that are in many ways similar, but significantly different. My model was tap and bleed with good lunge once you get started. There are a lot of +1 bleeders so that bleed mods aren't that important, plus those are most likely your first actions, which you majesty out of when blocked. Brandon

[ quoted text not captured ] I had a deck once with Democritus/Anson together with multiple copies of Anarch Troublemaker + Prophecies of Gehenna. You put them in play, and when you have another copy in your hand, you "activate" it and pass it to your prey. Then you play your next one. People usually dont want to pay 2 pool for the contest, so they yield and you get to do the same next turn. Anthelios goes in there as well of course, and there is a nice synergy between Anson and Demo discpline wise as well. I was actually thinking of rebuilding it, and I think I will do that. There must be a lot of new potential good cards to put in.

On Sep 17, 10:54 pm, "Nikolaj \"Lord of the Betrayers\" Wendt" [ quoted text not captured ] Ashurs tablets..... Not unique but it SUCKS when they get popped by someone else.....

[ quoted text not captured ] PB Montreal. Rack.

[ quoted text not captured ] Can't believe you people all forgot: - Thanks for the Donation - Political Seizure.

brandonsantacruz wrote: > XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: >> I am looking to Capitalize on Democritus's special for a deck. >> >> So besides putting 9x Dreams of the Sphinx, House of Sorrow and Ivory >> Bow in the deck, how else can I get maximum "screw you with >> intentional contesting" out of my deck? > > I see you like the idea ;) > > I ran Ventrue HQ and Elysium: PV which, while not extremely popular, > are very abusable with House of Sorrow. I thought this was recently ruled that as they contain "During..." that they are not reusable via House of Sorrow? Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! http://vtesville.myminicity.com/ Please buy my cards! http://shop.ebay.com/kjmergen/m.html

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:05:33 -0700, "Kevin M." wrote: >> I ran Ventrue HQ and Elysium: PV which, while not extremely popular, >> are very abusable with House of Sorrow. >I thought this was recently ruled that as they contain "During..." that >they are not reusable via House of Sorrow? They can always be untapped via House of Sorrow. If the card uses "During X, tap to Y", you can only do it once each X, even if the card is untapped. Getting two use Ventrue Headquarters or Elysium: The Palace of Versailles twice on the same turn may enable an oust now, instead of an oust later, so it can still be a good choice to untap them with House of Sorrows. Carpe noctem. The Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com Your best source of V:TES information. Now also selling boxes and individual cards.

The Lasombra wrote: > "Kevin M." wrote: >>> I ran Ventrue HQ and Elysium: PV which, while not extremely >>> popular, are very abusable with House of Sorrow. > >> I thought this was recently ruled that as they contain "During..." >> that they are not reusable via House of Sorrow? > > They can always be untapped via House of Sorrow. Sure, I understand that they can be untapped twice. > If the card uses "During X, tap to Y", you can only do it once each X, > even if the card is untapped. Ok, so what he said was incorrect (or an older understanding). Thanks for the confirmation. [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] My top 10 cards to contest... 1. Pentex Subversion 2. Fame 3. Creepshow 4. Powerbase: Montreal 5. Dreams of the Sphinx 6. Visit of the Cappuccino 7. The Parthenon 8. Ivory Bow 9. Bowl of Cheating 10. Heart of Cheating

On Sep 17, 11:40 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] at least give Clio's Kiss some love. never know if this might be its lone chance to break into the TWDA.