Eagle Sight Timing

Let me pose a question. Minion X of Meth A is bleeding Meth B. Minion Y of Meth B attempts to block. Minion X gets +1 stealth. Meth B declines to block. Minion X gets +2 bleed from an action card. Meth B declares he will take the bleed. Meth C is the predator of Meth A. Can Minion Z of Meth C play an Eagle Sight and lay down +1 intercept to attempt to block the bleed against Meth B? The issue comes up as the bleed is a directed action. The only legal blocker can be minions of the targetted Meth. My only concern is that once the targetted Meth the action is successful. This means no other attempts of blocking can be made. Well, you can still play reaction cards, meaning that the action could be bounced with a deflection, thus allowing another block opportunity. What do you guys say? Andrew.

Andrew Daley wrote: :: Let me pose a question. :: :: Minion X of Meth A is bleeding Meth B. Minion Y of Meth B attempts :: to block. Minion X gets +1 stealth. Meth B declines to block. :: Minion X gets +2 bleed from an action card. Meth B declares he :: will take the bleed. Meth C is the predator of Meth A. Can Minion :: Z of Meth C play an Eagle Sight and lay down +1 intercept to :: attempt to block the bleed against Meth B? Yes. Eagle sight allows you to block when other players have declined. to avoid this, the Meth A should ask "no eagle sight block ?" before playing his bleed modifier. Not hurrying is the key to a succesful bleed ;)

"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3f08d5b8$0$24301$79c1...@nan-newsreader-03.noos.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] Is it really obligatory to answer such a question (the "no eagle's sight block" question), and then act thus even after the acting minion has played an action modifier?

Angus, the Unruled wrote: :: "reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [ quoted text not captured ] alas if you really want to have no nasty surprise, you should ask.

On 7 Jul 2003 01:51:20 -0700, athosg...@gmx.at (Angus, the Unruled) scrawled: [ quoted text not captured ] I'm pretty sure that if the acting methuselah calls for 'all other block attempts' (eagles', falcon's, anneke), and no one attempts, then that acting methuselah can play whatever action mods he wants and no one will be allowed to attempt to block unless specific card text says otherwise (eg: deflection). salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

In message <690c2085.03070...@posting.google.com>, "Angus, the Unruled" <athosg...@gmx.at> writes: >Is it really obligatory to answer such a question (the "no eagle's >sight block" question), If you are asked if you're blocking by the acting methuselah, you must answer yes or no. If you decline to block, you don't get another chance. (Obviously, they have to go to the target first, in the case of (D) actions, or prey then predator in un-(D) actions.) >and then act thus even after the acting minion >has played an action modifier? Yes. Otherwise you get situations like: "Are you going to block?" "Only if you play an action modifier." "Well, I'm not going to play an action modifier (or not) until I know if you're blocking." "I'm not going to say if I'm blocking until I see if you're playing Conditioning." So the acting minion's controller asks for blocks at a point convenient to herself. You resolve all block attempts relevant to that question and move on. The playing of Threats, Deflection and so on is not relevant to the timing of the blocks. You can play them before or after. But you can only declare blocks when the acting minion orders the blocking phase. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Lucky that my breasts are small and humble, EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 So you don't confuse them with mountains. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:<5bfraESSPUC$Ew...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk>... > In message <690c2085.03070...@posting.google.com>, "Angus, > the Unruled" <athosg...@gmx.at> writes: > >Is it really obligatory to answer such a question (the "no eagle's > >sight block" question), > > If you are asked if you're blocking by the acting methuselah, you must > answer yes or no. If you decline to block, you don't get another > chance. (Obviously, they have to go to the target first, in the case of > (D) actions, or prey then predator in un-(D) actions.) > > >and then act thus even after the acting minion > >has played an action modifier? I looked up the rulebook and found no mentioning that other methuselahs than the target methuselah (in case of D-actions), have to declare if they make any further block attempts. I agree that if the player chose to answer on that question, that he has to follow his answer. I'm just not yet convinced that he has to answer at all. Any official confirmation for this?

[ quoted text not captured ] Confirmed. The action cannot be resolved if any Methuselah still has a chance to block, and therefore each Methuselah who might have a chance to block must eventually decline to do so (or block, of course). Since that declination cannot be postponed to the End of Time, it must be made at some point. The acting Methuselah can wait for that point to pass before playing further effects. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/