rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Shell Game and Referenda

9 messages from 6 participants · 05 June 2008 – 07 June 2008
original thread on Google Groups

Kushiel

Does the untap effect of Shell Game take place before or after the effects of a referendum called by the Blood Brother who played Shell Game (assuming that referendum passes)? I'm not sure - the action is successful once it reaches the referendum, but the action hasn't reached resolution until after the referendum. It seems to me that Shell Game should untap your guys after blocks are declined but before the referendum, but I have a feeling that LSJ's going to say otherwise. John Eno

leon.t...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] (the as-yet-unborn Blood Brothers Anarch vote deck teeters on the edge of existence, waiting for a quiet word from LSJ to burst from its womb and claim its stake in the already-crowded world of vtes decks...)

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] After successful resolution.

mat...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] And the blood brothers get squashed. H. minor calls KRC plays Shell Game tapping 2 H. minor for 2 stealth. Delay Tactics the acting H. minor untaps as the action was cancelled. you just lost an action and that is the best case senario. Cain forbide you are playing Torrence. Is after a successful referendum and successful action handled at the same time?

mat...@gmail.com

> > Is after a successful referendum and successful action handled at the > same time? Nevermind, I found it.

Rehlow

[ quoted text not captured ] Someone in my playgroup has been playing an Anarch Torrence Blood Brother vote deck since probably a little after Black Hand came out. It does ok because most of the time the table sees that it is a BB deck that goes Anarch and calls votes and they laugh at it, underestimating its strength in its extreme toolboxyness. It doesn't use Shell Game (because I don't think he owns any) so he hasn't run into the Delaying Tactics problem yet. Later, ~Rehlow

Kushiel

On Jun 6, 11:54 am, matt...@gmail.com wrote: > And the blood brothers get squashed. H. minor calls KRC plays Shell > Game tapping 2 H. minor for 2 stealth. > Delay Tactics the acting H. minor untaps as the action was cancelled. > you just lost an action and that is the best case senario. My concerns were actually about whether or not a) Tapping guys for Shell Game means your Domain Challenges hurt you more, and b) Tapping guys for Shell Game makes Revolutionary Council less effective. Ah well. John Eno

mat...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] I can't keep all the rules in my little brain. Can you play Voter Cap to survive a vote that would kill you? I don't think so, if you could than you could untap via Shell Game to take less DMG from Domain Challenge.

Salem

mat...@gmail.com wrote: > I can't keep all the rules in my little brain. Can you play Voter Cap > to survive a vote that would kill you? I don't think so, you're right, you can't. you resolve the referendum, ousting you. Then you play Voter Cap ('...after resolving a successful referendum'). But wait, you don't have anyone to play VC, because you've been ousted. -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)