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Another V:TES quiz

14 messages from 8 participants · 18 December 2003 – 19 December 2003
original thread on Google Groups

John Flournoy

A 'let's see how big it gets' quiz: Your four opponents have neither played any cards nor controlled any minions at any point. They will not use any cards, nor will they play to help you in any way. If some effect would give them a vote, they will all cast as many as they safely can against you. The edge is currently uncontrolled, and all players can be assumed to have 30 pool. You have four minions in play, the only ones you have controlled so far. You have no vampires in your ash heap. You may have any library cards and/or effects in play or affecting your minions that you can justify having (given these conditions), with one exception: nobody's deck was built with any Master: Discipline cards, or the Soul Gem. You can even dictate the order of the cards remaining in your library (started at 90 cards) and crypt (started with 12 cards). It's the start of your turn. How many votes in favor can you generate for the referendum of your choice this turn? (You can call multiple votes this turn if you like. The challenge is to get the most positive votes on any single referendum.) -John Flournoy

Colin Riggs

"John Flournoy" <flou...@rcn.com> wrote in message news:57327a82.03121...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Vampires Moncada Lucita Gratiano Marcus Vitel ADV Votes: 8 Cards Power Structure Moncada calls Cardinal Benedicition on Lucita Freak Drive V:11 Lucita call Cardinal Benediction on Gratiano, freak Drive V:14 Moncada gets a Creation rite, Freak Drive Lucita gets Creation Rite, Freak Drive Marcus Gets Creation Rite, Freak Drive Moncada gets a Embrace, Freak Drive Lucita gets Embrace, Freak Drive Marcus Gets Embrace, Freak Drive Marcus bleeds with DARING the DAWN, Freak Drive Marcus plays Regeneration, Freak Drive Marcus Rapidly Heals, Freak Drive Marcus Restores, freak Drive Lucita Restores, DARING the DAWN, Freak Drive Lucita Regnerates, Freak Drive Lucita Rapidly Heals Moncada Restores, DARING the DAWN, Freak Drive Moncada Regnerates, Freak Drive Moncada Rapidly Heals Marcus Calls for a Charming Lobby for Anarchist uprising 1 Bewitching Oration 4 Mob Rule (Moncada 10 Blood, 20 Votes, Lucita 8 Blood, 16 votes, Gratiano 8 Blood, 16 Votes, 9 Blood, 18 Votes) Total: 70 Iron Glare 2 Echo of Harmonies and Burn Edge +3 Awe 3. Titles: 14 Power Structure: 10 Total Votes: 107. Not sure what else I could do, anyone else? Colin Riggs

Jozxyqk

[ quoted text not captured ] You have 4 11-cap Inner Circle minions, full. Arika is Legendary. Arika calls a vote: Arika has 6 votes. +1 from the card. +23 from Awe. +4 from Bewitching Oration +2 from Madrigal +57 from Business Pressure, burning 29 pool. +6 from other titles (1 from each other Baron) +66 from playing Mob Rule and emptying all your other vampires Play Echo of Harmonies, and burn the edge, for +3 more votes. That's 168 votes in favor, by my count. Just waiting for the Delaying Tactics.

Jozxyqk

Oops, once again I think too fast. The edge is uncontrolled, so you have a measly 165 votes :( [ quoted text not captured ]

Jozxyqk

DOUBLE oops. I forgot that everyone else will vote against you :( [Triple Oops, i re-edited this so many times that i forgot my original post had barons in it] Let me rework my answer, since Business Pressure will cause your vote to fail if everyone else burns 29 pool, and because i'm an idiot :) : >> You have 4 11-cap Inner Circle minions, full. >> Arika is Legendary. >> Arika calls a vote: >> Arika has 6 votes. >> +1 from the card. >> +23 from Awe. >> +4 from Bewitching Oration >> +2 from Madrigal +12 from other titles (other Inner Circle Members) >> +66 from playing Mob Rule and emptying all your other vampires That's a really poor score.. 114 votes in favor. Someone can do better than that.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Any arbitrary number of votes can be generated. Your four vampires: Four Giovanni. You have Powerbase: Rome in play with an arbitrary number of counters. Call a vote. Tap PB:Rome to burn the counters to gain X votes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

John Flournoy

> Any arbitrary number of votes can be generated. > > Your four vampires: Four Giovanni. > You have Powerbase: Rome in play with an arbitrary number of counters. > > Call a vote. Tap PB:Rome to burn the counters to gain X votes. Excellent point. I'd forgotten about the 'tap to get X votes' cards. > LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. > Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ -John Flournoy

Kris Zierhut

Advanced Alfred Benezri (archbishop) +2 Jimmy Dunn Lena Rowe Angela Decker Jimmy bleeds 88 Legacy of Pander in play called on previous turns + 88*4=+352 Call 89th legacy of pander with Benezri +1 Burn Edge+1 Awe +15 Total: 371 votes in favor (BTW: no card that gives less than 5 votes is worth using when you could have another LoP in play instead, and this trick won't work with Ventrue Directorate Assembly due to it costing 2 pool each. I decided that was "not reasonable." )

salem

On 18 Dec 2003 19:52:07 -0800, KZie...@yahoo.com (Kris Zierhut) scrawled: >Advanced Alfred Benezri (archbishop) +2 >Jimmy Dunn >Lena Rowe >Angela Decker > >Jimmy bleeds >88 Legacy of Pander in play called on previous turns + 88*4=+352 >Call 89th legacy of pander with Benezri +1 >Burn Edge+1 >Awe +15 >Total: 371 votes in favor Legacy of Pander hasn't 'stacked' for many years now... salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

The Fanboy

> 88 Legacy of Pander in play called on previous turns + 88*4=+352 > Call 89th legacy of pander with Benezri +1 Wasn't LoP erratas to only produce one vote, no matter how many are in play? Fanboy

Angus, the Unruled

KZie...@yahoo.com (Kris Zierhut) wrote in message news:<24d59333.03121...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] My Legacy of Panders version: Genevieve Moncada Kyle Strathcona Velya 62 Legacy of Pander in play. Edge Genevieve: Clan Impersonation Pander Genevieve: Freak Drive Genevieve: Creation Rites Genevieve: Freak Drive Genevieve: Embrace Genevieve: Freak Drive Genevieve: Crusade: Houston Moncada: Clan Impersonation Pander Moncada: Freak Drive Moncada: Creation Rites Moncada: Freak Drive Moncada: Embrace Moncada: Freak Drive Moncada: Crusade: Houston Kyle: Clan Impersonation Pander Kyle: Freak Drive Kyle: Creation Rites Kyle: Freak Drive Kyle: Embrace Kyle: Freak Drive Kyle: Crusade: Houston Lazverinus: Clan Impersonation Pander Lazverinus: Freak Drive Lazverinus: Creation Rites Lazverinus: Freak Drive Lazverinus: Embrace Lazverinus: Freak Drive Lazverinus: Vote 62x12= 744 (Legacy of Pander) 1 (Edge) 1 (Genevieve) Total: 746 Votes

Angus, the Unruled

Oohps .. forgot that the edge is considered uncontrolled. That should be only 745 votes in favor then :)

Colin Riggs

"John Flournoy" <flou...@rcn.com> wrote in message news:3fe253ad$0$4752$61fe...@news.rcn.com... > > Any arbitrary number of votes can be generated. > > > > Your four vampires: Four Giovanni. > > You have Powerbase: Rome in play with an arbitrary number of counters. > > > > Call a vote. Tap PB:Rome to burn the counters to gain X votes. > > Excellent point. I'd forgotten about the 'tap to get X votes' cards. > I was going on the assumption that this was all in one turn, there are infininte ways to get more votes if you can set things up. Colin Riggs

LSJ

Colin Riggs wrote: > "John Flournoy" <flou...@rcn.com> wrote in message >>>Any arbitrary number of votes can be generated. >>> >>>Your four vampires: Four Giovanni. >>>You have Powerbase: Rome in play with an arbitrary number of counters. >>> >>>Call a vote. Tap PB:Rome to burn the counters to gain X votes. >> >>Excellent point. I'd forgotten about the 'tap to get X votes' cards. >> > I was going on the assumption that this was all in one turn, there are > infininte ways to get more votes if you can set things up. From the problem statement: "You may have any library cards and/or effects in play or affecting your minions that you can justify having (given these conditions)," -- [ quoted text not captured ]