Origins 2002 Rollcall

Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, in 14-15 days please add yourself to this list, and make it to Peter's Annual Newsgroup Invitational. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=B8FF0829.1E99%25PDB6%40bigplanet.com Current suspects for attendance: Jay Kristoff, VEKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio Keith Thompson, VEKN Prince of Las Vegas David and Robyn Tatu, The Soul of Atlanta VTES Peter Bakija, Nosferatu Newsletter Editor Extraordinaire Lasombra

"The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3d126e5e...@text.giganews.com... > Current suspects for attendance: > > Jay Kristoff, VEKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio > Keith Thompson, VEKN Prince of Las Vegas > David and Robyn Tatu, The Soul of Atlanta VTES > Peter Bakija, Nosferatu Newsletter Editor Extraordinaire > Lasombra Xian I also assume that Kevin Mergen will be there. I am so there. :) Hopefully will make it there in time for the Thursday noon tournament, but that'll depend on my waking up early and driving from Chicago that morning. Xian

Lasombra asked: >Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, >in 14-15 days please add yourself to this list, and make >it to Peter's Annual Newsgroup Invitational. >Current suspects for attendance: >Jay Kristoff, VEKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio I am here to confirm your suspicions. I even took time off from work. That will allow me to participate in all events, including Peter's invitational. I may also be able to spearhead a few trips into some of the poorer establishments of downtown Columbus. My roommate/personal trainer/spiritual advisor/brother Will, is going to be tied down with employment. He plans to show up only when his yet to be determined schedule allows. Mark Loughman, V:EKN Prince of nearby Newark Ohio plans to dive in nearly as fully as I have. Many of my local players are interested, but are too poor to have committed yet. Xian is right, we should definitely add Kevin Mergen, V:EKN Prince of Madison WI to the list of "suspects for attendance". Kevin again this year has graciously volunteered to organize and judge all four Origins tournaments. Without him, we are nothing...or at least, I get to play much less often. Thank you Mr. mer-Gen! By the way, early Origins arrivals are welcome to join the Columbus play group for our weekly session on Wednesday night 7/3/02. We will play from 7pm to 11pm at the Guard Tower game store: 3600 Trabue Rd. Columbus OH 43204. Contact me for more info. Jay Kristoff, V:EKN Prince of Columbus OH j...@columbus.rr.com

Yaa! It is looking like we'll get a good crowd. I'm bringing along myself, Steve "I beld someone for 14 in one turn because of stupid misdirection" Wampler, and Andrew "No, really, this deck works!" Sackett. Peter D Bakija PD...@bigplanet.com http://www.myplanet.net/pdb6 "I am the autumn in the scarlet I am the make-up on your eyes" -Kim Deal

"Xian" <xi...@waste.org> wrote in message news:aeva1d$ac0rg$1...@ID-123937.news.dfncis.de... > > "The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3d126e5e...@text.giganews.com... > > Current suspects for attendance: > > > > Jay Kristoff, VEKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio > > Keith Thompson, VEKN Prince of Las Vegas > > David and Robyn Tatu, The Soul of Atlanta VTES > > Peter Bakija, Nosferatu Newsletter Editor Extraordinaire > > Lasombra > Xian > > I also assume that Kevin Mergen will be there. Ya, gracias! > I am so there. :) Hopefully will make it there in time for the Thursday noon > tournament, but that'll depend on my waking up early and driving from Chicago > that morning. I'll hold the tournament an extra 5 minutes for you to show up. Remember, you can get your badge and ticket in-between rounds, if you do get into Columbus right at noon. I trust you. ;) > > Xian Kevin M., Prince of Madison, WI (USA) "Know your enemy, and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment... Complacency... Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier

"The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3d126e5e...@text.giganews.com... [ quoted text not captured ] You mean: > Lasombra, Suuuuuuuuuuuper Geeeeeeeeeeeenius Props to everyone who tossed my name in the hat. I will also be bringing along AT LEAST two members of the Madison contingent to the festivities: Dave "that guy that qualified for the NAC with Assamites" Buerger Matt "The Combo" Strehlow Hopefully, we'll also see Ben "hey Kevin, I need these 106 commons" Peal. Unfortunately, it looks as if Derek Ray won't be coming again this year. C'mon Derek! My free room-and-board offer from last year still stands. :) -- [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <uh7bvp4...@corp.supernews.com>, "Kevin M." <kjme...@PLEASENOSPAMMEcharter.net> mumbled something about: >Hopefully, we'll also see Ben "hey Kevin, I need these 106 commons" Peal. > >Unfortunately, it looks as if Derek Ray won't be coming again this year. C'mon >Derek! My free room-and-board offer from last year still stands. :) Derek is presently attempting to wangle the ONE day off required to attend; unfortunately, everyone and their grandmother has taken that day off already and it's not a company holiday, so I am presented with the unpleasant alternative of calling in sick (guaranteed to fool nobody and WILL get me in trouble, although not fired), or simply declaring that I'll be gone and have no way around it, and hoping I don't get fired. Tricky, but I still have an ace left to play. -- "There's no gray. There's just white that's got grubby." -- T.P.

> >The Lasombra wrote [ quoted text not captured ] When and where is it? I clicked on the link, but it didn't give any specifics. What state will it be in? (Georgia, Ohio, Nevada?)

On 21 Jun 2002 18:23:21 -0700, hdma...@hotmail.com (HD) wrote: >> Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, >When and where is it? I clicked on the link, but it didn't give any >specifics. What state will it be in? (Georgia, Ohio, Nevada?) Origins Gaming Convention July 4th-7th, 2002 Columbus, Ohio http://www.originsgames.com/ This is one of the few gaming conventions for which it is worth travelling. The other two are GenCon and DragonCon. GenCon - Milwaukee, WI - August 8th-11th, 2002 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=gencon DragonCon - Atlanta, GA - August 30th-September 2nd, 2002 http://www.dragoncon.com/ Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com/tournaments.htm

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:41:02 GMT, The Lasombra wrote: >This is one of the few gaming conventions for which it is worth >travelling. The other two are GenCon and DragonCon. DragonCon is not a gaming convention - the games are incidental. I'd put WizardWorld in the same category. Besides Gencon and Origins, I'm aware of the following gaming conventions (off the top of my head). Whether they are worth travelling to depends upon your gaming interests and the programme. Gencon UK - London, September Moncon - NJ, March? Shorecon - NJ, September Strategicon - LA, February, May & ? Kublacon - SF, May Crossroads - NJ, next weekend Bencon - Denver, May Essen - Germany, October? Dragonmeet - London, November? Andrew

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:57:35 -0500, "Kevin M." <kjme...@PLEASENOSPAMMEcharter.net> wrote: >> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=B8FF0829.1E99%25PDB6%40bigplanet.com >> Lasombra >You mean: >> Lasombra, Suuuuuuuuuuuper Geeeeeeeeeeeenius No, I mean Lasombra, Archivist Asshole. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:43:13 +0100, Andrew S. Davidson <a...@csi.com> wrote: >On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:41:02 GMT, The Lasombra wrote: > >>This is one of the few gaming conventions for which it is worth >>travelling. The other two are GenCon and DragonCon. > >DragonCon is not a gaming convention - the games are incidental. It is one of only 3 conventions I would travel to for the games. To me, everything else at DragonCon was incidental. [ quoted text not captured ]

"Andrew S. Davidson" wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:41:02 GMT, The Lasombra wrote: > >This is one of the few gaming conventions for which it is worth > >travelling. The other two are GenCon and DragonCon. > > DragonCon is not a gaming convention - the games are incidental. Dragon*Con is a science fiction, fantasy and horror, comics and art, games and computers, animation, science, music, television and films convention. Any single item from that list may be classified as incidental to the whole (or to the troll :-), yet it is a gaming convention nonetheless. It hosts more games than many of the "pure" gaming conventions. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In message <3D14B922...@white-wolf.com>, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> mumbled something about: >"Andrew S. Davidson" wrote: >> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:41:02 GMT, The Lasombra wrote: >> >This is one of the few gaming conventions for which it is worth >> >travelling. The other two are GenCon and DragonCon. >> >> DragonCon is not a gaming convention - the games are incidental. > >Dragon*Con is a science fiction, fantasy and horror, comics and art, games and >computers, animation, science, music, television and films convention. Dragon*Con's origins were as a gaming convention. An association named "DAGR" hosted the first Dragon*Con, many many years ago; the acronym stood for "Dragon Alliance of Gamers and Role-Players", of which I was a member. It has always been, and remains primarily a gaming convention, although with an inordinate amount of crap tacked on in all directions. >Any single item from that list may be classified as incidental to the whole (or >to the troll :-), yet it is a gaming convention nonetheless. It hosts more games >than many of the "pure" gaming conventions. ...And for a good reason, too. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:51:26 GMT, LSJ wrote: >Any single item from that list may be classified as incidental to the whole (or >to the troll :-), yet it is a gaming convention nonetheless. It hosts more games >than many of the "pure" gaming conventions. Gencon and Origins have several thousand gaming events in their program. Dragoncon currently has about twenty. It's a big convention but that's because of all the non-gaming stuff. So far as gaming is concerned, it's just a regional con. It's of special interest to the Vampire fan because it's in White Wolf's home town. That's all. The VTES events aren't anything special though, are they? Andrew

On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:01:55 GMT, Derek Ray wrote: >Dragon*Con's origins were as a gaming convention. An association named >"DAGR" hosted the first Dragon*Con, many many years ago; the acronym >stood for "Dragon Alliance of Gamers and Role-Players", of which I was a >member. > >It has always been, and remains primarily a gaming convention, although >with an inordinate amount of crap tacked on in all directions. I haven't been to it since it was also the Origins for that year in 1990. That was the only year that I found it worth travelling to. I thought it was ok but have since preferred to travel to lots of other cons of various sorts. I still pigeonhole it as primarily an SF con and its official history confirms this impression. http://www.dragoncon.org/history.html I'm not saying that there's anything bad about this. I just object to Jeff's suggestion that you won't get as good a VTES event at another regional con like Orccon or Gencon UK, say. Andrew

Andrew S. Davidson <a...@csi.com> wrote in message news:<9F71E5A0A2110519.215419B4...@lp.airnews.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] Just 20 gaming events? Wow. The largest local Missouri conventions, Visioncon and Archon, both have more gaming than that. When a bible-belt convention with attendance around 1,000 people has more gaming than Dragoncon, I'd have to go with the "not a gaming convention" crowd. JSpektr

jspektr wrote: > Just 20 gaming events? Wow. The largest local Missouri conventions, > Visioncon and Archon, both have more gaming than that. When a > bible-belt convention with attendance around 1,000 people has more > gaming than Dragoncon, I'd have to go with the "not a gaming > convention" crowd. If a convention with an attendance around 1,000 does, in fact, have more gaming than Dragon*Con, I'd be right there with you. But D*C will hold, if history be any guide, many more than "about 20" events. Note that what a web site "currently lists" is not on a 1-1 correspondence to what occurs at the Con. For example, most, if not all, of the VTES events at Gen*Con are listed incorrectly or not listed at all on the Gen*Con web site. For another example, the visioncon website lists a total of 0 game events, from what I can find. Likewise the Archon web site lists 0 (and says that the event schedule won't be posted until late August - about 6 weeks prior to Archon). What you see on the Dragon*Con is the first events registered trickling into the web site. Rather than wait until "most" of the events are in before updating the web site, the D*C staff update it as the events come in. [ quoted text not captured ]

thela...@hotmail.com (The Lasombra) wrote in message news:<3d126e5e...@text.giganews.com>... > Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, > in 14-15 days please add yourself to this list, and make > it to Peter's Annual Newsgroup Invitational. I'll be at the invitational, but due to funds I will not partake in any tournament games. Along with Jay Kristoff I would like to co-spear head excursions into columbus's seedier parts of town. :) ~SV

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D170D13...@white-wolf.com>... > jspektr wrote: > > Just 20 gaming events? Wow. The largest local Missouri conventions, > > Visioncon and Archon, both have more gaming than that. When a > > bible-belt convention with attendance around 1,000 people has more > > gaming than Dragoncon, I'd have to go with the "not a gaming > > convention" crowd. > > If a convention with an attendance around 1,000 does, in fact, have more > gaming than Dragon*Con, I'd be right there with you. But D*C will hold, > if history be any guide, many more than "about 20" events. Hey, not a problem. I was just going by what the other posters had said. My knowledge of Dragoncon is mostly limited to stories told by friends that went for the Live Action games and reading articles about their recent legal trouble. I hadn't personally seen any indication of how much gaming it really had, so I chose to believe Andrew. If he was incorrect, so be it. JSpektr

On 24 Jun 2002 13:34:14 -0700, jsp...@sprynet.com (jspektr) wrote: >Hey, not a problem. I was just going by what the other posters had >said. My knowledge of Dragoncon is mostly limited to stories told by >friends that went for the Live Action games and reading articles about >their recent legal trouble. I hadn't personally seen any indication of >how much gaming it really had, so I chose to believe Andrew. If he was >incorrect, so be it. Remember that. ~You~ chose to believe Andrew. He said that he hadn't been to a DragonCon in twelve years (ie, since 1990). What happened 12 years ago has almost no relation to happened last year, or what will happen this year. DragonCon could certainly use better web administration and a professional staff, but their only permanent paid staff are a pair of receptionists/bookkeepers last I talked to them. There were more people playing games of all sorts at DragonCon last year than attended OrcCon in Los Angeles. Both are gaming conventions. If I were going to spend money traveling to one or the other, my money is always going to be spent on DragonCon. I have been to the last 3 of each, so my experiences are current, not 12 years out of date. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:39:12 GMT, The Lasombra wrote: >There were more people playing games of all sorts at DragonCon last >year than attended OrcCon in Los Angeles. Both are gaming >conventions. If I were going to spend money traveling to one or the >other, my money is always going to be spent on DragonCon. I have been >to the last 3 of each, so my experiences are current, not 12 years out >of date. I don't think Dragoncon is worth travelling to and so I don't travel to it. You don't think Orccon is worth travelling to but you still travel to it, anyway. I'm not the one that's confused here <grin>. Andrew

"The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3d126e5e...@text.giganews.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Looks like I can make it after all. Road trip, here we come! Joshua Duffin Trey Morita Forrest Nielsen Heather Fogg Dan Keller James Burton will all, I believe, be attending from the DC area (and there may be more), though not all will necessarily be playing in all the VTES events. (Some people have, like, other games they play. I can't explain it.) My group of four (me, Trey, Forrest, Heather) will not be arriving in time for the Thursday noon event but should be there in time for Thursday evening action. Josh original gangsta

[ quoted text not captured ] I gave OrcCon three chances. My experiences with the hotel staff, and the gaming coordinators was worse each year. There will not be a fourth OrcCon in my future. [ quoted text not captured ]

"Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:afaobl$ctc4b$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de... > > "The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3d126e5e...@text.giganews.com... > > Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, > > in 14-15 days please add yourself to this list, and make > > it to Peter's Annual Newsgroup Invitational. > > > > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=B8FF0829.1E99%25PDB6%40bigplanet.com > > > > > > Current suspects for attendance: > > > > Jay Kristoff, VEKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio > > Keith Thompson, VEKN Prince of Las Vegas > > David and Robyn Tatu, The Soul of Atlanta VTES > > Peter Bakija, Nosferatu Newsletter Editor Extraordinaire > > Lasombra > > Looks like I can make it after all. Road trip, here we come! Only Peter can come to Origins. Only Josh can come to GenCon. <nomad> Illogical. Inconsistent. You are in error. You are a biological unit. You are imperfect. </nomad> > > Josh > > original gangsta [ quoted text not captured ]

"Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<afaobl$ctc4b$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>... [Origins] > Looks like I can make it after all. Road trip, here we come! Excellent. I was *just* about to send email to see if there was an update. > My group of four (me, Trey, > Forrest, Heather) will not be arriving in time for the > Thursday noon event but should be there in time for Thursday > evening action. Depending on my own arrival time (maybe by noon, maybe not), we could possibly get some games going while the Thursday tournament is finishing up. Or get booze or something. :) Xian

I and many of the Michigan contingent (Noal, AtotheAtotheRON, SuperBernie, etc) will be at Origins. I cannot play in the Invitational because I will be LARPing. Depending where they put the LARP this year I'll probably wander by. I'd expect Noal, Aaron, Bernie, et al to be available to spar with Peter in his yearly soiree. Try not to beat Noal up too badly... he's a fragile flower after all. Matt Loyal Servant to the Princes of Columbus, Detroit, and Lansing.

[ quoted text not captured ] I'd not confirmed any plans for Origins previously, but will do so now. Thursday is "right out" as I have plans to attend a BBQ with the girlfriend. Ya'll can expect to see me sometime Friday (will shoot for 11:30am). As I won't be playing in the Origins Qualifier, would still like to be there to pass the torch over to this years winner :-) Ciao, Bernie BernieTime Lansing, Michigan

"Kevin M." <kjme...@PLEASENOSPAMMEcharter.net> wrote in message news:uhi4ssm...@corp.supernews.com... > > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:afaobl$ctc4b$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de... > > Looks like I can make it after all. Road trip, here we come! > > Only Peter can come to Origins. Only Josh can come to GenCon. > > <nomad> > Illogical. Inconsistent. You are in error. You are a biological unit. You > are imperfect. > </nomad> I know, right? It's unnatural! :-) I actually did go to Origins before I ever went to GenCon, back in '98. But after one or two Origins I've been doing just GenCon because it's the better one for VTES/Fist and I figured I could only do one of them. But this year I've got the vacation time and I'm going crazy with the gasoline. There's no stopping me I tell you! Well okay, I'll probably be stopped by the Atlantic (and Thanksgiving) and unable to go to the European Championship. ;-) Josh now if only Peter could get to GenCon...

"Xian" <xb...@qwest.net> wrote in message news:dbc1153.02062...@posting.google.com... > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<afaobl$ctc4b$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>... > [Origins] > > Looks like I can make it after all. Road trip, here we come! > > Excellent. I was *just* about to send email to see if there was an > update. Woo-hoo! > Depending on my own arrival time (maybe by noon, maybe not), we could > possibly get some games going while the Thursday tournament is > finishing up. Or get booze or something. Sounds good to me! Either way. Heh heh heh. I hear Jay wants to lead expeditions into darkest Columbus, too. Oooh, spoooooky. Josh silly today

<berni...@attbi.comHOLDLeSPAM> wrote in message news:3d1a0a5b...@netnews.attbi.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Y'all can play in the suuuuuuuuuuuuuper cool Sabbat War Sealed Deck tourney, though! > Ciao, > > Bernie > > BernieTime > Lansing, Michigan -- [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <afddsj$cr6f6$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>, "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> mumbled something about: >Sounds good to me! Either way. Heh heh heh. > >I hear Jay wants to lead expeditions into darkest Columbus, >too. Oooh, spoooooky. "Titty bars and beer." [ quoted text not captured ]

"Derek Ray" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ohnkhugike0gdogu1...@4ax.com... > In message <afddsj$cr6f6$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>, > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> mumbled something about: > > >Sounds good to me! Either way. Heh heh heh. > > > >I hear Jay wants to lead expeditions into darkest Columbus, > >too. Oooh, spoooooky. > > "Titty bars and beer." Hmm. That doesn't sound as spooky. ;-) Did you find out yet if you can finagle going? I guess you've still got another week to agitate. Josh in fact i think we have those things here in, um, darkest washington dc, too...

"Kevin M." <kjme...@PLEASENOSPAMMEcharter.net> wrote in message news:uhkgrh7...@corp.supernews.com... > > <berni...@attbi.comHOLDLeSPAM> wrote in message > news:3d1a0a5b...@netnews.attbi.com... > > I'd not confirmed any plans for Origins previously, but will do so now. > > Thursday is "right out" as I have plans to attend a BBQ with the > > girlfriend. Ya'll can expect to see me sometime Friday (will shoot > > for 11:30am). As I won't be playing in the Origins Qualifier, would > > still like to be there to pass the torch over to this years winner :-) > > Y'all can play in the suuuuuuuuuuuuuper cool Sabbat War Sealed Deck tourney, > though! Is that definite now? You're talking about the Saturday event opposite the qualifier? It'll be Sabbat War sealed deck? Can we make it draft instead? Draft is cooler. :-) I will certainly be in for draft rather than qualifier if we get enough cool people to also go in on that plan. And as long as there are at least 20 for the qualifier even without us already-qualified people in. I'd be more than willing to do my part for increasing the number of qualifiers by filling to 20 if necessary. :-) Josh civic-minded enough to play the great beast for the good of the many

thela...@hotmail.com (The Lasombra) wrote in message news:<3d126e5e...@text.giganews.com>... > Current suspects for attendance: > <snip list of shady characters> Add Mike Perlman to the list, please. And if anyone has crash space up there, or knows of hotels with vacancies, such info would be much appreciated. :)

> > Y'all can play in the suuuuuuuuuuuuuper cool Sabbat War Sealed Deck > tourney, > > though! > > Is that definite now? You're talking about the Saturday event > opposite the qualifier? It'll be Sabbat War sealed deck? Can > we make it draft instead? Draft is cooler. :-) > > I will certainly be in for draft rather than qualifier if we > get enough cool people to also go in on that plan. And as long > as there are at least 20 for the qualifier even without us > already-qualified people in. I'd be more than willing to do my > part for increasing the number of qualifiers by filling to 20 > if necessary. :-) > > > Josh > Yes, as someone pre-registered to the Saturday 1pm event I would like to know if the format has been changed from what is printed in the book to something else. Its the only Jyhad event I am registered for so if I don't have to bring a constructed deck for the tourney I'll save the space and not bring one. My wife's and my costuming is bulky and a Sunfire is only so big... Matt Denizen of the Sewers of Detroit Loyal Servant to the Princes of Columbus, Lansing, and Detroit

"evil_poot_cat" <evilp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:cf597231.02062...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] I certainly have space for Mike Perlman to crash in my hotel room, if Mike Perlman is willing to split the room costs with 4-5 other people. I do not know Mike Perlman. Should I let Mike Perlman stay in my hotel room at Origins? Who will vouch for Mike Perlman? :) [ quoted text not captured ]

"Matt Latham" <sv...@chartermi.net> wrote in message news:978c2422.02062...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Ahhhhhh crap, I said Sealed Deck. It is draft. DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT. > Matt > Denizen of the Sewers of Detroit > Loyal Servant to the Princes of Columbus, Lansing, and Detroit You don't have to be loyal to your friend Kevin, just be his friend. [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <uhnlr7d...@corp.supernews.com>, "Kevin M." <kjme...@PLEASENOSPAMMEcharter.net> mumbled something about: >"evil_poot_cat" <evilp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:cf597231.02062...@posting.google.com... >> >> Add Mike Perlman to the list, please. And if anyone has crash space >> up there, or knows of hotels with vacancies, such info would be much >> appreciated. :) > >I certainly have space for Mike Perlman to crash in my hotel room, if Mike >Perlman is willing to split the room costs with 4-5 other people. > >I do not know Mike Perlman. Should I let Mike Perlman stay in my hotel room at >Origins? Who will vouch for Mike Perlman? :) He's some fucker who plays around here. We'd let him play more often, but he keeps playing these weenie decks with Blood Tears of Kephran and Lucky Blows and other crazy shit. ;) [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <aff785$du28k$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>, "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> mumbled something about: >"Derek Ray" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:ohnkhugike0gdogu1...@4ax.com... >> In message <afddsj$cr6f6$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>, >> "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> mumbled something about: >> >> >Sounds good to me! Either way. Heh heh heh. >> > >> >I hear Jay wants to lead expeditions into darkest Columbus, >> >too. Oooh, spoooooky. >> >> "Titty bars and beer." > >Hmm. That doesn't sound as spooky. ;-) If they're bigger than my head, they scare me. >Did you find out yet if you can finagle going? I guess you've >still got another week to agitate. Yeah. I can't, really; the amounts I would need to spend for last-minute sudden transport/etc. are better saved for, say, GenCon (which I CAN get time off for), or, say, the Week of Nightmares even. >in fact i think we have those things here in, um, darkest >washington dc, too... mmmmm... Atlanta. Home of totally naked women AND alcohol, in the same establishment, both brought to your table. (One of, i think, two or three cities in the USA that permits this? =) We now return you to your regularly-scheduled broken card debate and/or rules argument. [ quoted text not captured ]

"Derek Ray" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ebrohukekpgghujak...@4ax.com... > In message <aff785$du28k$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>, > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> mumbled something about: > >> >I hear Jay wants to lead expeditions into darkest Columbus, > >> >too. Oooh, spoooooky. > >> > >> "Titty bars and beer." > > > >Hmm. That doesn't sound as spooky. ;-) > > If they're bigger than my head, they scare me. The beers or the titties? > >Did you find out yet if you can finagle going? I guess you've > >still got another week to agitate. > > Yeah. I can't, really; the amounts I would need to spend for > last-minute sudden transport/etc. are better saved for, say, GenCon > (which I CAN get time off for), or, say, the Week of Nightmares even. Oooooo. Derek, I thought you were definitely out for the "Week" or GenCon. I'd be great it you could make it to Milwaukee for a spell. -Robert

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Derek Ray wrote: Can you tell there isn't a sole, damn thing going on at work for me today? > Yeah. I can't, really; the amounts I would need to spend for > last-minute sudden transport/etc. are better saved for, say, GenCon > (which I CAN get time off for), or, say, the Week of Nightmares even. I'm in for the Week of Nightmares, BTW. Hope to see squint-eyed, blurry triplicates of you there. > mmmmm... Atlanta. Home of totally naked women AND alcohol, in the same > establishment, both brought to your table. (One of, i think, two or > three cities in the USA that permits this? =) Is it that rare? Offhand, I know Orlando is in the club. But I've spent more time hemmhoraging ones and fives and twenties and -- outside the US than in it. David Cherryholmes

sv...@chartermi.net (Matt Latham) wrote: > I'd expect Noal, Aaron, Bernie, et al to be available to spar with > Peter in his yearly soiree. I will be there. Dave McCarty and Jared Strait should also make an appearance. > Try not to beat Noal up too badly... he's a fragile flower after all. Who you calling a "fragile flower"?!? :-P Regards, Noal

"Kevin M." wrote: > It is draft. Choices. Choices. Get in the top 10 of the qualifier with a Baali deck...win SW draft with Beast...damn you all. I can't decide. Regards, Noal

Andrew S. Davidson > Derek Ray wrote: > >Dragon*Con's origins were as a gaming convention. An association named > >"DAGR" hosted the first Dragon*Con, many many years ago; the acronym > >stood for "Dragon Alliance of Gamers and Role-Players", of which I was a > >member. > > > >It has always been, and remains primarily a gaming convention, although > >with an inordinate amount of crap tacked on in all directions. > > I haven't been to it since it was also the Origins for that year in > 1990. That was the only year that I found it worth travelling to. I > thought it was ok but have since preferred to travel to lots of other > cons of various sorts. I still pigeonhole it as primarily an SF con > and its official history confirms this impression. > > http://www.dragoncon.org/history.html Of the few times I've been to DragonCon ('98-'00), it's been pretty clear that it's first and foremost a sci-fi/fantasy fan con, with the gaming being secondary. That might not have been how it started out, but that's the way it is now. That being said, I've had an absolute blast playing in V:TES events and non-V:TES gaming events at DragonCon every year I've been there. On top of that, I've been able to see a bunch of goth bands (along with Gwar), see lots of hot women in cool outfits, and eat great sushi and other fine dinners with the V:TES crew. Yeah, the North American Championships are at GenCon, and the V:TES there is awesome, but for me DragonCon provides more overall fun. Seeya there in August! - Ben Peal, Prince of Boston fu...@mindstorm.com

Kevin M > Hopefully, we'll also see Ben "hey Kevin, I need these 106 commons" Peal. I just started a contract job, so I won't be able to attend. However, the contract job allows me to afford GenCon and DragonCon, so I'll definitely be attending those two. After your latest shipment of commons, I discovered that I had a hidden supply of Minion Taps, meaning that I've got a rather excessive surplus right now. Speaking of which, I have to submit another tournament request form...Minion Tap: Boston, here we come... In the meantime, I still need Deflections, Telepathic Misdirections and Precognitions in bulk quantity. :) [ quoted text not captured ]

David Cherryholmes < > I'm in for the Week of Nightmares, BTW. Hope to see squint-eyed, blurry > triplicates of you there. Rock on! Will see you there! [ quoted text not captured ]

Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ohnkhugike0gdogu1...@4ax.com>... > In message <afddsj$cr6f6$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>, > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> mumbled something about: > > >Sounds good to me! Either way. Heh heh heh. > > > >I hear Jay wants to lead expeditions into darkest Columbus, > >too. Oooh, spoooooky. Depends on how spooky you want to get. There's also a whips and leather place I frequent. If that's not your thing there's also beer and gay men at the short north (gay district)... if that's not your thing there's redneck pool halls, and if not that then maybe some underground basement concert going? Anyone up for open microphone stage? There's a lot of shite to do, believe it or not... ~SV

"vermillian" <vermil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f987c6cd.0206...@posting.google.com... > Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ohnkhugike0gdogu1...@4ax.com>... > > In message <afddsj$cr6f6$1...@ID-121616.news.dfncis.de>, > > "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> mumbled something about: > > > > > >I hear Jay wants to lead expeditions into darkest Columbus, > > >too. Oooh, spoooooky. > > Depends on how spooky you want to get. There's also a whips and > leather place I frequent. If that's not your thing there's also beer > and gay men at the short north (gay district)... if that's not your > thing there's redneck pool halls, and if not that then maybe some > underground basement concert going? Anyone up for open microphone > stage? > Thanks for the stage thing, but no thanks. Otherwise, pretty much all of the rest sounds good to me, although it'd be wise with being careful around those rednecks if I'm to sample the rest :). Do I bring my own leash and collar? ;) But serious, a little question you're probably able to answer. Would a one-day pass get me into both the Qualifier and the Invitational, or would I need at least a two-day pass for that? Either way, I'm planning to come. See you all there! Patrick

In message <f987c6cd.0206...@posting.google.com>, vermillian <vermil...@yahoo.com> writes: >If that's not your thing there's also beer >and gay men at the short north (gay district)... You have gay men who drink *beer*? That's a positive rarity in this country, *especially* if any of them are under 30. -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D I am woman. Here, me raw. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, in 2-3 days please add yourself to this list, and make it to Peter's Annual Newsgroup Invitational. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=B8FF0829.1E99%25PDB6%40bigplanet.com Origins Gaming Convention July 4th-7th, 2002 Columbus, Ohio http://www.originsgames.com/ Current suspects for attendance: Jay Kristoff, VEKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio Will Kristoff Keith Thompson, VEKN Prince of Las Vegas David and Robyn Tatu, The Soul of Atlanta VTES Mike Perlman Lasombra Peter Bakija, Nosferatu Newsletter Editor Extraordinaire Steve Wampler Andrew Sackett Josh Duffin, Prince of Washington, D.C. Trey Morita Forrest Nielsen Heather Fogg Dan Keller James Burton Xian, Chronicler of the Tremere Kevin Mergen, Prince of Madison Wisconsin Dave Buerger Matt Strehlow Mark Loughman, Prince of Newark, Ohio Screaming Vermillian Matt Latham Noal McDonald Aaron Steele Bernie Bresnahan Dave McCarty Jared Strait

> Kevin Mergen, Prince of Madison Wisconsin > Dave Buerger > Matt Strehlow Regretably, Matt Strehlow, author of "The Combo", will not be attending Origins because he couldn't catch a ride into Columbus from Milwaukee with us or anyone else passing through town that we know of. So Kevin and I will be the sole representatives of the Madison contingent, and since Kevin's running lots of the events, it will be just me at the table most likely. Looking forward to seeing everyone this week! David Buerger "that guy that qualified with the Assamite deck"

The Lasombra wrote: > Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, in 2-3 days > please add yourself to this list, and make it to Peter's Annual > Newsgroup Invitational. Just so everyone is on the same page, the Newsgrpoup Invitational is at 11:00 pm on Thursday (7.4) night. Meet in the glass walkway bewteen the Hyatt and the convention center (the breezeway with all the tables and people playing Magic for money). I made cool posters this year, and I'll put them up during the day in the appropriate spot, so look for them. This event is a completely low key, freely organized situation. It isn't actually a tournament, and you can play any deck you want or any decks you want. Mostly, we just sit around, play VTES, crack wise, and test out deck designs for the tournaments on Friday and Saturday. [ quoted text not captured ] Sweet jesus and baby jesus. We might need to score a room or something :-) Peter D Bakija PD...@bigplanet.com http://www.myplanet.net/pdb6 "I am the autumn in the scarlet I am the make-up on your eyes" -Kim Deal

On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 09:22:34 -0400, Peter D Bakija <PD...@bigplanet.com> wrote: >The Lasombra wrote: > >> Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, in 2-3 days >> please add yourself to this list, and make it to Peter's Annual >> Newsgroup Invitational. > >Just so everyone is on the same page, the Newsgrpoup Invitational is at >11:00 pm on Thursday (7.4) night. Meet in the glass walkway bewteen the >Hyatt and the convention center (the breezeway with all the tables and >people playing Magic for money). I made cool posters this year, and I'll put >them up during the day in the appropriate spot, so look for them. That's a bummer Pete, only on two accouts. 1. I'm not going to be there till Friday (my bad) 2. It is 4th of July, which might crimp some other people from being able to show up. I'd imagine there will be late-night gatherings on either Friday or Saturday as well.. [ quoted text not captured ] I think next year we should try and score a couple of suites, Lots of floor space to crash, and lots of room to play/party :-) >Peter D Bakija >PD...@bigplanet.com >http://www.myplanet.net/pdb6 BernieTime Lansing, Michigan

On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 02:42:09 GMT, The Lasombra wrote: >Any and all people planning to make it out to Origins, in 2-3 days >please add yourself to this list, and make it to Peter's Annual >Newsgroup Invitational. I'll be there but don't see any draft events on the schedule so am more likely to be playing other games. Andrew

"Andrew S. Davidson" <a...@csi.com> wrote in message news:84C5233C013EF112.046A97D3...@lp.airnews.net... [ quoted text not captured ] If you want to draft, there will be people to draft with at the Invitational (Thursday July 4 at 11 pm). Of course, we'd need a source of cards, but perhaps there will be some intrepid dealers at the convention willing to sell us VTES cards? :-) Josh draftoholic

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:09:43 -0400, "Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Isn't Kevin running a draft side-event during the Origins qualifier on Saturday? Think it starts an hour after the qualifier starts, best run a google check on the newsgroup. BernieTime Lansing, Michigan

> Current suspects for attendance: > > Matt Latham Alas, I will be LARPing during this time, although I may wander by and crack wise as Lasombra put it. Matt Denizens of the Sewers of Detroit "Sure, I SERVE Jay, but that doesnt mean I SERVICE Jay!"

"The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3d211028...@text.giganews.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Please add me in! Patrick van der Reest, upstart of Worthington (domain of Columbus)