Most Powerful Jyhad Card

I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful Jyhad card out there. I know what the most potentially powerful Magic card is, and that is the: Demonic Tutor Jack Frost I'm sorry for mentioning that other game.

Remindless (remin...@aol.com) writes: > I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful > Jyhad card out there. In my Brujah/Toreador deck, as simplistic as it seems, Fast Reaction. Waste 'em, man. Hee hee hee... [ quoted text not captured ]

remin...@aol.com (Remindless) wrote: >I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful >Jyhad card out there. > >I know what the most potentially powerful Magic card is, and that is the: > >Demonic Tutor > >Jack Frost > >I'm sorry for mentioning that other game. Lesse,... gotta be Day Operations, in my book. Nothing like a huge bleed that can't be blocked,... of course you can always re-direct it, but not in a 2-player game. -- ______________________________________________________________________________ W. Scott Westermann west...@cadcam.pms.ford.com Software Engineer Phone : (313) 390-6306 Advanced Vehicle Technologies - Core Fax : (313) 390-5011 Computer Applications E/E Systems Eng. Mail : Village Plaza Ste. 1100 Ford Motor Company 23400 Michigan Avenue Dearborn MI, USA Dearborn, Michigan 48124 ______________________________________________________________________________

In article <3qqpg7$k...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, "William S. Westermann" <westerma> says: > >remin...@aol.com (Remindless) wrote: >>I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful >>Jyhad card out there. i think the most powerful card is probably misdirection. it for me is the game winner

[ quoted text not captured ] All it takes is a few WWEF or Rat's Warning to make people think twice before using that. --------- Paul Schaaf sch...@u.washington.edu

On 2 Jun 1995, Remindless wrote: > I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful > Jyhad card out there. > > I know what the most potentially powerful Magic card is, and that is the: > > Demonic Tutor > > Jack Frost > > I'm sorry for mentioning that other game. I think for Jyhad that you need to look more at combos than at single cards. For instance, Misdirection + (Govern the Unaligned + Conditioning)*number of vampires you have is a really nasty combo, but Misdirection + bleed for 1 with all your vampires is pointless. --------- Paul Schaaf sch...@u.washington.edu

On 5 Jun 1995, Ritchie Howden wrote: > In article <3qqpg7$k...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, "William S. Westermann" <westerma> says: > > > >remin...@aol.com (Remindless) wrote: > >>I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful > >>Jyhad card out there. > > i think the most powerful card is probably misdirection. > it for me is the game winner > > Hi Ritchie, I think the one of the best things about Jyhad is that if you asked 40 players what the best card is, you would probably get at least twenty different answers. For my part, I find Cloak the Gathering to be the most usefull card in any of my decks. Algustas *****If you steal from one author it's plagiarism. If you steal from two, it's research.***** John Burke

Remindless (remin...@aol.com) wrote: : I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful : Jyhad card out there. : I know what the most potentially powerful Magic card is, and that is the: : Demonic Tutor Form of mist and Freak drive

R.Ho...@shef.ac.uk (Ritchie Howden) wrote: > > In article <3qqpg7$k...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, "William S. Westermann" <westerma> says: > > > >remin...@aol.com (Remindless) wrote: > >>I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful > >>Jyhad card out there. > > i think the most powerful card is probably misdirection. > it for me is the game winner Ya. I like that one too. But I have to say that wake with evenings freshness is my favourite. Nothing like waking up Basilia when they think they can bleed you at 0 stealth.:) Dan

In article <3qusb8$r...@hippo.shef.ac.uk> R.Ho...@shef.ac.uk (Ritchie Howden) writes: > In article <3qqpg7$k...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, "William S. Westermann" <westerma> says: > > > >remin...@aol.com (Remindless) wrote: > >>I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful > >>Jyhad card out there. > > i think the most powerful card is probably misdirection. > it for me is the game winner I would disagree. Misdirection, while useful and often game finishing, has its drawbacks (the paid blood). I would say that the most powerful card by far is FAME!!!!! This card causes so many problems it is unreal. Perhaps it is the fact that not many Vulnerability cards are floating around in my group, but with Fame you can be causing 3 blood loss to your prey almost guaranteed if you're smart. -- Lars M Ericson: Professional Vagabond <leri...@gac.edu> The Lor, The Law, The Lars Team Garotte, Founding Member Registered Member of a Decadent Society Life is like a Wankel Engine. In between the emptiness of boredom and despair, and the compression of stress in one's life, there's that one spark of enjoyment that keeps you going.

> >>I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful > >>Jyhad card out there. To me, the most powerful card has to be Wake with Evening Freshness. Circumvents Misdirection, with other cards can Deflect(ion) or Telepathic Misdirect(ion) a Day Operation bleed or a stealth bleed. This allows you to do what you need to do on your turn, knowing that you will be able to handle your preditor. It even works agains Freak Drive, Majesty, and Earth Meld.

The most powerful card ever!!! Day operation. Has anyone consdered Day Op Rapid Healing with Fame. Ventrue players how about that 9 point bleed. If you cannt work it out for you self Govern the Unaligned, Conditioning, Fame. Max bleed ( four card limit) 36 points. If any one cares to do it +1 bleeder, four Fames, Lap Top, Tasha Morgan, J. S. Simmons esquire, Govern the Unaligned, Conditioning, Four spying missions, And that auspex uncommon (3 bleed for the remainder of the game), day op(sorry for including the fame damage for the same turn and the next turn) -- Peter Gordon WILSMORE, cs95...@cs.uwa.edu.au, First Year Student

cs95...@cs.uwa.edu.au (Peter Gordon WILSMORE) wrote: >The most powerful card ever!!! Day operation. Has anyone consdered Day Op >Rapid Healing with Fame. Ventrue players how about that 9 point bleed. If >you cannt work it out for you self Govern the Unaligned, Conditioning, >Fame. Max bleed ( four card limit) 36 points. If any one cares to do it +1 >bleeder, four Fames, Lap Top, Tasha Morgan, J. S. Simmons esquire, Govern >the Unaligned, Conditioning, Four spying missions, And that auspex >uncommon (3 bleed for the remainder of the game), day op(sorry for >including the fame damage for the same turn and the next turn) Peace Peter, Yes, Day Op is very powerful, but you could still Deflect the bleed. You cannot stack Fames anymore, the DTR has ruled Fame to be a Unique Master card (better than no change at all, though I still like my solution better). Day Op is also a rare and it does send a minion to torpor, so it does have a heafty cost. Why do you mention _four_ Fames and _four_ Spying Missions (sic)? Are you playing with some silly Mt$-holdover four card limit? There are no card limits in Jyhad. There do not need to be card limits in Jyhad (the individual cards are balanced, unlike Mt$). Card limits make certain strategies (combat rush) unviable. If you are using card limits, I encourage you to stop. Nil carborundum illigitimi, James R. McClure Jr. The OS/2 Apostle <insert disclaimer here>

In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.95060...@gladstone.uoregon.edu>, Algustas <cfr...@gladstone.uoregon.edu> says: > > >On 5 Jun 1995, Ritchie Howden wrote: >> In article <3qqpg7$k...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, "William S. Westermann" <westerma> says: >> > >> >remin...@aol.com (Remindless) wrote: >> >>I am curious to know what others think is the most potentially powerful >> >>Jyhad card out there. >> i think the most powerful card is probably misdirection. >> it for me is the game winner >Hi Ritchie, > I think the one of the best things about Jyhad is that if you >asked 40 players what the best card is, you would probably get at least >twenty different answers. For my part, I find Cloak the Gathering to be >the most usefull card in any of my decks. > Algustas Nah Elder Kindred network ! But its of restricted use Kine recourses contested and coservative agitation one are the best general use ones! Guess what kind of deck i use! ^_^ ParadoX ******************************************************************* /^\()/^\ " We know the truth and have seen the light may / |/ \| \ Uriel, Gabriel, Raphael and Michael protect me / | | | | \ and serve me in our quest!" Hadrian Ardronicus \/\/| |\/\/ Cabbalist, Order of Hermes. -- Paradox aka Neil Hughes Social sec/liason officer Anime Anon (sheffield) Paradox on cass BBS Email N.G.h...@sheffield.ac.uk (out of term time replies may be slow) Truth until paradoX

Aw come on - the most powerful card has *got* to be Fame. This is the most degenerate broken card in the entire game, especially since it is not unique. -- ----- sah...@bga.com

sah...@bga.com (Sahryx Shadowthorn) writes: > Aw come on - the most powerful card has *got* to be Fame. This >is the most degenerate broken card in the entire game, especially since >it is not unique. It *is* unique. (as of DTR 4/18/95) -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu) | These opinions are mine and http://www.math.scarolina.edu/~sjohnson | are subject to card text. Graphics Specialist and Jyhad Rulemonger. |

On 13 Jun 1995, Sahryx Shadowthorn wrote: > Aw come on - the most powerful card has *got* to be Fame. This > is the most degenerate broken card in the entire game, especially since > it is not unique. Actually it was ruled to be unique not all that long ago by the design team. It's still pretty nasty, but not to the extent it was before. A weenie with Fame and a buff dude with Talbot's Chainsaw still hurts pretty bad though. --------- Paul Schaaf sch...@u.washington.edu

Personally I'm rather fond of the boon cards...not so much life boon as major boon. The way I read that card's description is that you theoretically could take a 1 bleed against your opponent and make him take an obscene bleed for you. My only question about the cards worth is can you use it in a two player game? Could you make a weenie attack on your opponent bleed him for 1 and use your Major Boon to prevent it? If so that would make for a very intresting tactic.

[ quoted text not captured ] Hi FrobozzWiz, Well, I don't belive you can play OOT masters in your own turn, if you could this card would be a gamewinner.... Algustas *****Oh no, no time for a quote, my file server is going down until tues.***** Algustas

Remindless (remin...@aol.com) wrote: : In my opinion, I think : HOSTILE TAKEOVER : IS the most powerful card in the game. : Any arguments? Actually, I prefer "temptation of greater power" to "hostile takeover".

In article <3rsu6l$l...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, frobo...@aol.com (FrobozzWiz) writes: |> Personally I'm rather fond of the boon cards...not so much life boon as |> major boon. The way I read that card's description is that you |> theoretically could take a 1 bleed against your opponent and make him take |> an obscene bleed for you. My only question about the cards worth is can |> you use it in a two player game? Could you make a weenie attack on your |> opponent bleed him for 1 and use your Major Boon to prevent it? If so that |> would make for a very intresting tactic. As you can't play OoT masters on your own turn, Major Boon isn't very useful in a 2 player game. In fact, the only way I could think of to use it would be to use a Malkavian Madness Network to bleed him right after his own turn and then play a boon. This would require that your opponent tap out, and that you have both a MMN and the Boon (and don't need to play any other Masters next turn) just my $0.02 worth, gary