Judge's Exam

Hello All, Some time ago there was discussion about a Judge's Exam, purely optional, but intended to help Judges learn more. There has been a website set up to administer this exam, but as far as I know it is not complete yet. I began working on questions last night, and here is my first draft of a few questions. There was also an expresses desire to make it multiple choice, so those options will be added when I get time, as will additional questions. If you have time, please comment on format of the questions and also feel free to add to them. I would eventually like to reach 100+ questions and then break them into easy/med/hard. I also intend to use this "test" on my new players to help them build confidence, Judge's Test Lambach has the Eye of Hazimel and Sire's Index Finger. They are at long range with Matteuz. Matteuz is the acting minion and plays Canine Horde at superior to destroy the Eye with first strike. Lambach plays Thrown Sewer Lid. Can Lambach choose Thrown Sewer Lid as his strike? If he can, does it succeed? What if instead, Matteuz plays Drawing out the Beast and uses the horde to strike the Sire's Index Finger. Can Lambach still use the Eye for Potence and choose as his strike Thrown Sewer Lid? Qadir has changed his clan to Malkavian. Is he now considered Camarilla? Carlotta Giovanni wants to take an action to go to the ash heap and recover a Govern the Unaligned. Does she have to announce the card she wants when she takes the action? What if a minion uses the Sargon Fragment, do they have to announce the card they are going to get? Le Dinh Tho takes the action to look at his Prey's Hand and make him discard a card. Does he get to see the replacement? You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge for successfully bleeding? How many discard phase actions do you have? If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? If the escaped mental patient blocks, and chooses to use his strike for aggravated damage. Can you keep him from being burned? How? Tariq attacks Stanislava. He uses the rowan ring to send her to torpor. Tariq wants to play amaranth, but Stanislava wants to play undead persistence. Can Tariq play Amaranth? Why? Goratrix is Regent and has Eternal Vigilance. He then merges. What happens to Regent? Is Goratrix later goes to torpor. Does Eternal Vigilance burn? Gabrin plays Sensory Deprivation on Arika. Marcus Vitel calls Banishment on Gabrin. Does Sensory Deprivation burn? Gabrin is influenced back out. Does Sensory Deprivation reactivate? A different copy of Gabrin is transferred out, does Sensory Deprivation reactivate? Garbrin has the Soul Gem of Etrius and a Fortitude Skill Card. He is burned, and a new copy of Gabrin comes out, what happens to Sensory Deprivation? Lucita bleeds and is not Blocked. Her prey has 9 pool. She plays Foreshadowing Destruction at superior. She is then deflected to her grand prey who has 12 pool. How much does she now bleed for? Lucita bleeds her prey says "no block". She is then deflected to her grand prey, who deflects her back to her prey. Can her prey now try to block? Marcus Vitel bleeds his prey and plays spying mission at superior. The next turn he bleeds with a Govern the Unaligned. He is not blocked. His prey wants to play Archon Investigation, and has the pool to play it. He is unhappy, why? Kyoko is untapped. She is unable to hunt. She can take actions. Why can't she hunt? (There are at least 2 answers) Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is untapped, can she rush again? Maxwell has Resilient Mind. Arika bleeds his controller and plays Seduction on Maxwell. Can Maxwell burn 1 blood to ignore the effects of Seduction? Muaziz has Temptation on her, played by her prey. She gets Rutor's Hand and burns blood not to take the damage. On her Prey's turn, he burns the Temptation counters to untap and take control of Muaziz until the end of his turn. After using Muaziz to bleed, can he untap her with Rutor's Hand? There are two Anarch Revolts in play. Blythe calls a vote to get rid of the Anarch Revolt. Another minion plays Delaying Tactics. Can Blythe call another vote this turn? Can another minion you control call a vote to get rid of the other Anarch Revolt in play? Arika bleeds. Beast blocks her. She plays Kiss of Ra, and sends Beast to torpor. Can she now play Freak Drive? If she finds a way to untap, can she try to bleed again(her first bleed was cancelled by Kiss of Ra)? Regina is in combat with Muaziz. Muaziz plays Burst of Sunlight. Regina is immune to aggravated damage. Can Muaziz play Rotschrek? Muaziz attempts to diablerize Arika. She is blocked and survives combat. She uses Rutor's Hand to untap. Can she attempt to diablerize Arika again? Can you Entomb Ambrosius? Arika bleeds and plays Lost in Crowds. Her prey plays Direct Intervention to cancel the Lost in Crowds. Can Arika play Lost in Crowds again? Arika plays Govern the Unaligned at superior. Her Predator plays Direct Intervention to cancel the Govern the Unaligned. Can she play Govern the Unaligned again? Your Muddled Vampire Hunter attacks a minion controlled by your prey. He dies. If you play Compel the Spirit to bring him back into play, can he act this turn? How can you get 11 cards in your hand using the Dreams of the Sphinx, assume you started your turn with 7 cards.

David Wilson wrote: One comment is that if there is such a test, there be a way to see the card text for the cards involved, as any judge who had to rule a dispute between them would have the cards in front of them anyways. Looking over the questions after having taken my shot at them, I noticed a few that where more along the lines of "How would you do this?" rather than "Is this legal?" These, IMO, while interesting thought questions, are bad in the format of a judge's exam, since they're more or less irrelevant. "Is this legal" is really what I think the exam should shoot for. These questions are also pretty complex. While that's not bad, per se, I think some simpler ones may also be called for -- the kind of stuff that all us newsgroup regulars now, but might be new to many judges, such as: Midget has a Minor Boon card on him from another Methuselah. Can Midget use Kindred Spirits to bleed... 1) His own controller? 2) The Methuselah who controls the Minor Boon? A Methuselah is given an Uptown Hunting Ground during his untap phase via the Succubus club, while his predator controls Arika. 1) Can he use it this untap phase? 2) Does he have to pay a pool to keep it this untap phase? A Methuselah controls Jessica, who has a Fame card played on her by that Methuselah's predator, and also has a .44 Magnum that was stolen from one of the predator's minions with a Fast Hands. If the predator is ousted, what happens to the... 1) Fame? 2) .44 Magnum? Tariq has used his built-in rush to attack Muaziz. Tariq strikes with a Rowan Ring, Muaziz uses Burst of Sunlight. Muaziz's controller players Rotschreck. Can Tariq's controller play Sudden Reversal? Methuselahs A, B, and C are playing, and each one has two pool. Methuselah A plays a Kine Resources Contested, assigning two points to B and two points to C. The vote passes. Afterwards, how much pool and how many VPs does each Methuselah have? Melisande rushes Spider-Killer. Before range, Spider-Killer plays Illusions of the Kindred. Can Melisande play... 1) Psyche!? 2) Telepathic Tracking? Alexandra hires a Raven Spy, and then plays Freak Drive. Can Alexandra... 1) Hire another Raven Spy? 2) Hire an Owl Retainer? 3) Use the Summoning to get another Raven Spy? A Methuselah controls a minion with an Ivory Bow. Can a minion of his attempt to... 1) Equip with another Ivory Bow from his hand? 2) Use Disguised Weapon to get an Ivory Bow? 3) Use Magic of the Smith to get an Ivory Bow? A Methuselah with an Archon Investigation in hand is being bled for 4 pool. May that Methuselah play Archon Investigation if they have... 1) 3 pool? 2) 2 pool? Stanislava has 1 blood, and attempts a Govern the Unaligned bleed. She is blocked. In the ensuing combat, can she play Form of Mist at superior and burn a blood to continue? If so, what happens? And just to take this test for fun...let's see how I do! > Lambach has the Eye of Hazimel and Sire's Index Finger. They are at long > range with Matteuz. Matteuz is the acting minion and plays Canine Horde at > superior to destroy the Eye with first strike. Lambach plays Thrown Sewer > Lid. Can Lambach choose Thrown Sewer Lid as his strike? Yes, because strikes are both declared before either resolves, so Lambach will still have his superior potence when the strike is declared. > If he can, does it succeed? Yes, assuming he's not knocked into torpor by the damage from the Eye, because the effects of a strike are determined when the strike is played, not when it resolves. See also: Talaq taking agg damage from Burst of Sunlight. > What if instead, Matteuz plays Drawing out the Beast and uses the horde to > strike the Sire's Index Finger. Can Lambach still use the Eye for Potence > and choose as his strike Thrown Sewer Lid? Yes. Lambach is immune to the DOtB as it's played. It doesn't stick around. > Qadir has changed his clan to Malkavian. Is he now considered Camarilla? Yes. Changing clan changes you to the default sect for that clan. > Carlotta Giovanni wants to take an action to go to the ash heap and recover > a Govern the Unaligned. Does she have to announce the card she wants when > she takes the action? Yes. All parameters for an action have to be announced when the action is taken, except for votes and "search your library..." cards. You also have to announce the card you're exchanging from your hand. > What if a minion uses the Sargon Fragment, do they have to announce the card > they are going to get? Yes. > Le Dinh Tho takes the action to look at his Prey's Hand and make him discard > a card. Does he get to see the replacement? No. > You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an > action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being > successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge > for successfully bleeding? No. The edge is given for a successful bleed, and Sargon gets it for a successful action. In this case, those are the same. > How many discard phase actions do you have? 1, unless you have Cicatrix, Ulugh Beg, etc, in play. > If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? This is, IMHO, a bad question. But anyways, I think the answer is no. Or, at least, I see no way of doing it. > If the escaped mental patient blocks, and chooses to use his strike for > aggravated damage. Can you keep him from being burned? How? Another bad question, but this can be reworded better. Anyways, the answer here is Rotschreck. I would phrase it as, "An escaped mental patient blocks, range is set to close, and the EMP chooses to use his strike for aggravated damage. His Methuselah plays Rotschreck. Does he burn?" > Tariq attacks Stanislava. He uses the rowan ring to send her to torpor. > Tariq wants to play amaranth, but Stanislava wants to play undead > persistence. Can Tariq play Amaranth? Why? Yes, because Tariq is the acting minion and so gets first chance to play cards. > Goratrix is Regent and has Eternal Vigilance. He then merges. What happens > to Regent? Is Goratrix later goes to torpor. Does Eternal Vigilance burn? Regent: Nothing, as he doesn't gain a new title, and there's nothing specifying it burns if he changes sects. Eternal Vigilence: No, because he's no longer Sabbat ("if this Sabbat vampire goes to torpor..."). However, he also can't make use of the card while Camarilla either ("the Sabbat vampire with this card..."). > Gabrin plays Sensory Deprivation on Arika. Marcus Vitel calls Banishment on > Gabrin. Does Sensory Deprivation burn? Yes, assuming the vote is successful. > Gabrin is influenced back out. Does Sensory Deprivation reactivate? No. It's considered a different copy of Gabrin. > A different copy of Gabrin is transferred out, does Sensory Deprivation > reactivate? No, as above. > Garbrin has the Soul Gem of Etrius and a Fortitude Skill Card. He is > burned, and a new copy of Gabrin comes out, what happens to Sensory > Deprivation? It still sits on Arika, uselessly doing nothing. > Lucita bleeds and is not Blocked. Her prey has 9 pool. She plays > Foreshadowing Destruction at superior. She is then deflected to her grand > prey who has 12 pool. How much does she now bleed for? 2, as she is no longer bleeding a Methuselah with less than 10 pool. > Lucita bleeds her prey says "no block". She is then deflected to her grand > prey, who deflects her back to her prey. Can her prey now try to block? Yes. > Marcus Vitel bleeds his prey and plays spying mission at superior. The next > turn he bleeds with a Govern the Unaligned. He is not blocked. His prey > wants to play Archon Investigation, and has the pool to play it. He is > unhappy, why? Better to phrase as "Can he play it?". But, anyways, the Spying Mission only kicks in if the bleed is successful, after which the window to play Archon Investigation has already passed. > Kyoko is untapped. She is unable to hunt. She can take actions. Why can't > she hunt? (There are at least 2 answers) Bad question. 1) No other ready vampires on the table. 2) She has hunted already, and then played Freak Drive. NRA prevents her from hunting again. > Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is > untapped, can she rush again? No. NRA on cards in play. > Maxwell has Resilient Mind. Arika bleeds his controller and plays Seduction > on Maxwell. Can Maxwell burn 1 blood to ignore the effects of Seduction? No. Resilient Mind only affects action or combat cards. Seduction is an action modifier. > Muaziz has Temptation on her, played by her prey. She gets Rutor's Hand and > burns blood not to take the damage. On her Prey's turn, he burns the > Temptation counters to untap and take control of Muaziz until the end of his > turn. After using Muaziz to bleed, can he untap her with Rutor's Hand? No. It doesn't activate until the original controller's next turn. > There are two Anarch Revolts in play. Blythe calls a vote to get rid of the > Anarch Revolt. Another minion plays Delaying Tactics. Can Blythe call > another vote this turn? No. NRA on votes. > Can another minion you control call a vote to get rid of the other Anarch > Revolt in play? Yes, as the ARs are considered seperate votes. But they can't call another vote to get rid of the first one. > Arika bleeds. Beast blocks her. She plays Kiss of Ra, and sends Beast to > torpor. Can she now play Freak Drive? No. The action was neither successful nor blocked. > If she finds a way to untap, can she try to bleed again(her first bleed was > cancelled by Kiss of Ra)? No. NRA on bleed. > Regina is in combat with Muaziz. Muaziz plays Burst of Sunlight. Regina is > immune to aggravated damage. Can Muaziz play Rotschrek? Yes. Rotschreck doesn't care about prevention. > Muaziz attempts to diablerize Arika. She is blocked and survives combat. > She uses Rutor's Hand to untap. Can she attempt to diablerize Arika again? Yes. Cardless actions are repeatable. > Can you Entomb Ambrosius? Yes, at the inferior. > Arika bleeds and plays Lost in Crowds. Her prey plays Direct Intervention > to cancel the Lost in Crowds. Can Arika play Lost in Crowds again? No. NRA on action modifiers. > Arika plays Govern the Unaligned at superior. Her Predator plays Direct > Intervention to cancel the Govern the Unaligned. Can she play Govern the > Unaligned again? Yes. See also Mask of 1000 Faces. > Your Muddled Vampire Hunter attacks a minion controlled by your prey. He > dies. If you play Compel the Spirit to bring him back into play, can he act > this turn? Yes. As I have seen repeatedly over the past two weeks. =P > How can you get 11 cards in your hand using the Dreams of the Sphinx, assume > you started your turn with 7 cards. Bad question. But: Dreams of the Sphinx has 2 counters on it, you tap it during your untap to increase your hand size to 9, during your master phase, you play another Dreams and tap it to increase your hand size to 11. I've done this. --Colin McGuigan

Colin, thanks for the input. It is assumed that the Judge will have access to all the relevant card text. I will implement your suggestions, David "Colin McGuigan" <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote in message news:l8OdnZMAaf5...@speakeasy.net... [ quoted text not captured ]

David Wilson wrote: > Colin, > > thanks for the input. It is assumed that the Judge will have access to all > the relevant card text. I will implement your suggestions, Heh. Thanks. But don't forget -- you also have to grade my test, Mr. Teacher! (I'm curious about the "gain the edge on the first turn" question.) --Colin McGuigan

>Judge's Test > > >Lambach has the Eye of Hazimel and Sire's Index Finger. They are at long >range with Matteuz. Matteuz is the acting minion and plays Canine Horde at >superior to destroy the Eye with first strike. Lambach plays Thrown Sewer >Lid. Can Lambach choose Thrown Sewer Lid as his strike? You might want to explicitly state that no other cards have been played or are in play. (i.e. Yes Lambach can play it, assuming Matteuz has not played DotB or Terror Frenzy prior to Lambach acquiring the Index Finger and if that is not the case, then also that Lambach does not have any level of Potence outside that granted by the Eye.). Halcyan 2

> >Midget has a Minor Boon card on him from another Methuselah. Can Midget >use Kindred Spirits to bleed... > 1) His own controller? > 2) The Methuselah who controls the Minor Boon? Another good question to ask is if he can be Deflected to the Methusaleh who control the Minor Boon. >A Methuselah controls Jessica, who has a Fame card played on her by that >Methuselah's predator, and also has a .44 Magnum that was stolen from >one of the predator's minions with a Fast Hands. If the predator is >ousted, what happens to the... > 1) Fame? > 2) .44 Magnum? You might want to make sure that the predator still controls the Fame (i.e. control was not traded via Succubus Club). >Tariq has used his built-in rush to attack Muaziz. Tariq strikes with a > Rowan Ring, Muaziz uses Burst of Sunlight. Muaziz's controller >players Rotschreck. Can Tariq's controller play Sudden Reversal? Assuming Tariq has not CI'ed to Malkavian and is using the Madness Network for an Out of Turn Rush? >Alexandra hires a Raven Spy, and then plays Freak Drive. Can Alexandra... > 1) Hire another Raven Spy? > 2) Hire an Owl Retainer? > 3) Use the Summoning to get another Raven Spy? "Employ" as the proper word. Also, you might want to explicitly state "from your hand." You can employ another Raven Spy if the first was from your hand but the second is via Muricia's Call. >> If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? > >This is, IMHO, a bad question. But anyways, I think the answer is no. >Or, at least, I see no way of doing it. > Jake Washington Computer Hacks. >> Gabrin plays Sensory Deprivation on Arika. Marcus Vitel calls Banishment >on >> Gabrin. Does Sensory Deprivation burn? > >Yes, assuming the vote is successful. Incorrect. The card doesn't actually burn. It just has no more effect. Halcyan 2

Halcyan 2 wrote: > Another good question to ask is if he can be Deflected to the Methusaleh who > control the Minor Boon. That is a good one, and likely to come up far more often. > You might want to make sure that the predator still controls the Fame (i.e. > control was not traded via Succubus Club). > > Assuming Tariq has not CI'ed to Malkavian and is using the Madness Network for > an Out of Turn Rush? I'm working under the assumption that unless it's stated in the question, it's not there. That is, read each question as if, "Unless otherwise specified, no other cards are in play or have been played..." etc. > "Employ" as the proper word. Also, you might want to explicitly state "from > your hand." You can employ another Raven Spy if the first was from your hand > but the second is via Muricia's Call. True. Kind of what I was going for in with the Summoning bit. > Jake Washington Computer Hacks. Ah. Thank you. > Incorrect. The card doesn't actually burn. It just has no more effect. Yeah, I realized that (three answers down I reference it sticking around uselessly). I think I just misread the question as, "Does the Sensory Deprivation no longer have any effect?" --Colin McGuigan

In message <96hdc.3873$Nz2....@news.itd.umich.edu>, "David Wilson" <danceswithwolvesontopofabuildingareyous...@umich.edu> mumbled something about: >Judge's Test > >Lambach has the Eye of Hazimel and Sire's Index Finger. They are at long >range with Matteuz. Matteuz is the acting minion and plays Canine Horde at >superior to destroy the Eye with first strike. Lambach plays Thrown Sewer >Lid. Can Lambach choose Thrown Sewer Lid as his strike? Yes. He had Potence during the "choose strike" phase, which is the only time it was checked whether or not Potence was on the vampire. >If he can, does it succeed? Yes. Removing the ability to play a given card from a minion does not stop the effect of an already-played card. Additional example: the Baron gets two Celerity skill cards and strikes hands-for-1, and the opposing minion prevents the damage with Superior Mettle. Baron plays Pursuit + Withering as his additional strike. Superior Mettle can be used for the rest of the combat, even though another one cannot be played. >What if instead, Matteuz plays Drawing out the Beast and uses the horde to >strike the Sire's Index Finger. Can Lambach still use the Eye for Potence >and choose as his strike Thrown Sewer Lid? Yes. See above; he still had Potence during the Choose Strike phase, although how he got to long range with DotB in play and against that vampire is a puzzle in itself ;) >Qadir has changed his clan to Malkavian. Is he now considered Camarilla? Yes. cf. rulings on Clan Impersonation, Embrace, etc. >Carlotta Giovanni wants to take an action to go to the ash heap and recover >a Govern the Unaligned. Does she have to announce the card she wants when >she takes the action? Yes. Plus the card she's going to exchange from her hand. >What if a minion uses the Sargon Fragment, do they have to announce the card >they are going to get? Yes -- but NOT the card he's going to exchange from his hand. >Le Dinh Tho takes the action to look at his Prey's Hand and make him discard >a card. Does he get to see the replacement? No. His "hand look" ability is not a continuing effect. >You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an >action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being >successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge >for successfully bleeding? No. You may only gain the Edge once per action. >If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? Jake Washington bleeds with Computer Hacking. >If the escaped mental patient blocks, and chooses to use his strike for >aggravated damage. Can you keep him from being burned? How? Besides Left for Dead, you mean? >Tariq attacks Stanislava. He uses the rowan ring to send her to torpor. >Tariq wants to play amaranth, but Stanislava wants to play undead >persistence. Can Tariq play Amaranth? Why? No. Stanislava isn't going to torpor anymore. >Goratrix is Regent and has Eternal Vigilance. He then merges. What happens >to Regent? Is Goratrix later goes to torpor. Does Eternal Vigilance burn? Goratrix has one additional vote, per Regent card text. He is Camarilla when merged, so cannot hold the Cardinal title or use Eternal Vigilance. Regent sits there until someone satisfies its card text. Eternal Vigilance does not burn if Goratrix goes to torpor while merged. >Gabrin plays Sensory Deprivation on Arika. Marcus Vitel calls Banishment on >Gabrin. Does Sensory Deprivation burn? No. The effect of Sensory Deprivation ends and is never renewed, but the card itself is not removed from the game (dorky card text). >Gabrin is influenced back out. Does Sensory Deprivation reactivate? No. >A different copy of Gabrin is transferred out, does Sensory Deprivation >reactivate? No. >Garbrin has the Soul Gem of Etrius and a Fortitude Skill Card. He is >burned, and a new copy of Gabrin comes out, what happens to Sensory >Deprivation? See above. Still doesn't reactivate. Ever. >Lucita bleeds and is not Blocked. Her prey has 9 pool. She plays >Foreshadowing Destruction at superior. She is then deflected to her grand >prey who has 12 pool. How much does she now bleed for? 1, cf. text on Foreshadowing. >Lucita bleeds her prey says "no block". She is then deflected to her grand >prey, who deflects her back to her prey. Can her prey now try to block? Yes, cf. rulings page regarding "target of a bleed". If this weren't true, people cross-table who had declined to block (lacking Eagle's Sight) would be unable to block after a bleed was Deflected to them. >Marcus Vitel bleeds his prey and plays spying mission at superior. The next >turn he bleeds with a Govern the Unaligned. He is not blocked. His prey >wants to play Archon Investigation, and has the pool to play it. He is >unhappy, why? AI reads "attempting to bleed". Marcus is only attempting to bleed for 3, though the bleed will be for 5 if it is successful. If Marcus is merged and his prey controls a ready Camarilla vampire, though, he burns. =) >Kyoko is untapped. She is unable to hunt. She can take actions. Why can't >she hunt? (There are at least 2 answers) Suggestion: Don't put brain teasers in a Judge's Exam. You're not testing their ability to judge with this question. ;) >Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is >untapped, can she rush again? With the Archon: Yes, because Archon is not a card in play. Without the Archon: Sure, play Bum's Rush all you like. >Maxwell has Resilient Mind. Arika bleeds his controller and plays Seduction >on Maxwell. Can Maxwell burn 1 blood to ignore the effects of Seduction? No. Seduction is an action modifier, not an action or combat card. >Muaziz has Temptation on her, played by her prey. She gets Rutor's Hand and >burns blood not to take the damage. On her Prey's turn, he burns the >Temptation counters to untap and take control of Muaziz until the end of his >turn. After using Muaziz to bleed, can he untap her with Rutor's Hand? No. "Your" minion phases refers to the initial Methuselah. (The answer to this question used to be "Yes". Rutor's Hand has changed.) >There are two Anarch Revolts in play. Blythe calls a vote to get rid of the >Anarch Revolt. Another minion plays Delaying Tactics. Can Blythe call >another vote this turn? No. >Can another minion you control call a vote to get rid of the other Anarch >Revolt in play? Yes. >Arika bleeds. Beast blocks her. She plays Kiss of Ra, and sends Beast to >torpor. Can she now play Freak Drive? No. >If she finds a way to untap, can she try to bleed again(her first bleed was >cancelled by Kiss of Ra)? This question's phrasing is a "tell" about the previous question. Answer: No. The previous BLOCK was canceled, not the action. >Regina is in combat with Muaziz. Muaziz plays Burst of Sunlight. Regina is >immune to aggravated damage. Can Muaziz play Rotschrek? Yes. And successfully, too. >Muaziz attempts to diablerize Arika. She is blocked and survives combat. >She uses Rutor's Hand to untap. Can she attempt to diablerize Arika again? Yes. Not an action based on a card in play. >Can you Entomb Ambrosius? He sure looks like an ally to ME. (Yes). >Arika bleeds and plays Lost in Crowds. Her prey plays Direct Intervention >to cancel the Lost in Crowds. Can Arika play Lost in Crowds again? No. One action modifier per action. (this should be at the front). >Arika plays Govern the Unaligned at superior. Her Predator plays Direct >Intervention to cancel the Govern the Unaligned. Can she play Govern the >Unaligned again? Yes. Actions that never start can be repeated. >Your Muddled Vampire Hunter attacks a minion controlled by your prey. He >dies. If you play Compel the Spirit to bring him back into play, can he act >this turn? Yes. He moves directly to the ready region, and will be untapped. >How can you get 11 cards in your hand using the Dreams of the Sphinx, assume >you started your turn with 7 cards. Again, this is a brainteaser and probably doesn't belong. ;) Tap Dreams, 3rd counter, burns, play new Dreams, tap Dreams again. -- Derek a host is a host from coast to coast and no one will talk to a host that's close unless the host that isn't close is busy, hung, or dead

In message <l8OdnZMAaf5...@speakeasy.net>, Colin McGuigan <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> mumbled something about: >David Wilson wrote: > >These questions are also pretty complex. While that's not bad, per se, >I think some simpler ones may also be called for -- the kind of stuff >that all us newsgroup regulars now, but might be new to many judges, >such as: I believe the complex questions should be retained, but a passing score adjusted/assigned appropriately. Some of those situations DO arise, and it's not good if a judge hasn't ever had to deal with THAT kind of wacky stuff before -- he should be able to understand the process behind getting a ruling, not just be able to recite all the existing rulings. The only way to get him understanding the process is to present him with horrendously contrived crud like the initial example. =) [ quoted text not captured ]

Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an >>action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being >>successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge >>for successfully bleeding? > No. You may only gain the Edge once per action. Sorry, Derek, you're wrong here. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3E674B19.3040108%40white-wolf.com

In message <klmdc.99687$w54.622478@attbi_s01>, Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> mumbled something about: [ quoted text not captured ] THAT ruling makes no sense at all; LSJ, we need a clarification here. Sargon gains the Edge for the action being successful; as soon as everyone has declined to block the action, he should gain the Edge and the referendum would begin (making him an excellent minion for Free States Rant, ironically). In this case, he WOULD gain the Edge twice; once at the start of the referendum, and once from the effect generated by passing the referendum. Different circumstances entirely, though, as the Edge is gained in that example at two distinct points in time... [ quoted text not captured ]

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 19:33:30 -0400, Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> scrawled: >In message <96hdc.3873$Nz2....@news.itd.umich.edu>, >"David Wilson" ><danceswithwolvesontopofabuildingareyous...@umich.edu> >mumbled something about: > >>Judge's Test [snip] >>If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? > >Jake Washington bleeds with Computer Hacking. why is this question in a judge's test? >>If the escaped mental patient blocks, and chooses to use his strike for >>aggravated damage. Can you keep him from being burned? How? > >Besides Left for Dead, you mean? Rotschrek >>Tariq attacks Stanislava. He uses the rowan ring to send her to torpor. >>Tariq wants to play amaranth, but Stanislava wants to play undead >>persistence. Can Tariq play Amaranth? Why? > >No. Stanislava isn't going to torpor anymore. Tariq is acting vampire. both amaranth and UP are played when stanislava goes to torpor. sequencing rules give tariq first option to play a card. He can play amaranth, thus burning stanislava so she can't play UP. >>Kyoko is untapped. She is unable to hunt. She can take actions. Why can't >>she hunt? (There are at least 2 answers) > >Suggestion: Don't put brain teasers in a Judge's Exam. You're not >testing their ability to judge with this question. ;) agreed. >>Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is >>untapped, can she rush again? > >With the Archon: Yes, because Archon is not a card in play. Actually, no, because Archon IS a card in play now. "{If this referendum is successful, put this card on the chosen vampire. This vampire}" funny curly parentheses errata on the online card text of Archon. >>Muaziz has Temptation on her, played by her prey. She gets Rutor's Hand and >>burns blood not to take the damage. On her Prey's turn, he burns the >>Temptation counters to untap and take control of Muaziz until the end of his >>turn. After using Muaziz to bleed, can he untap her with Rutor's Hand? > >No. "Your" minion phases refers to the initial Methuselah. > >(The answer to this question used to be "Yes". Rutor's Hand has >changed.) It still says "your". i always assumed the "your" meant whoever controlled muaziz (and thus, the rutor's hand on her). >>How can you get 11 cards in your hand using the Dreams of the Sphinx, assume >>you started your turn with 7 cards. > >Again, this is a brainteaser and probably doesn't belong. ;) agreed. salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm (replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)

> >>>You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an > >>>action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being > >>>successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge > >>>for successfully bleeding? > > > >> No. You may only gain the Edge once per action. Who ever said the above "No, you may only..." is incorrect. Sargon may do exactly what is described search google Author LSJ, Sargon > THAT ruling makes no sense at all; LSJ, we need a clarification here. LSJ has clarified this already, you can do it, David

Derek Ray wrote: > I believe the complex questions should be retained, but a passing score > adjusted/assigned appropriately. Oh, I think they're great questions. But the simple stuff that we all take for granted is going to show up far more often -- that's why we all know it, and take it for granted. --Colin McGuigan

Derek Ray wrote: > In message <klmdc.99687$w54.622478@attbi_s01>, > Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> mumbled something about: > > >>Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an >>>>action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being >>>>successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge >>>>for successfully bleeding? >>> >>>No. You may only gain the Edge once per action. >> >>Sorry, Derek, you're wrong here. >> >>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3E674B19.3040108%40white-wolf.com > > THAT ruling makes no sense at all; LSJ, we need a clarification here. The ruling seems pretty clear. > Sargon gains the Edge for the action being successful; as soon as > everyone has declined to block the action, he should gain the Edge and > the referendum would begin (making him an excellent minion for Free > States Rant, ironically). He gains after the (successful) action is resolved, not before. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Okay, I guess I have to give this a shot... "David Wilson" <danceswithwolvesontopofabuildingareyoustillreadingthisemailyoushouldntbecom e...@umich.edu> wrote in message news:96hdc.3873$Nz2....@news.itd.umich.edu... > Hello All, > > Some time ago there was discussion about a Judge's Exam, purely optional, > but intended to help Judges learn more. There has been a website set up to > administer this exam, but as far as I know it is not complete yet. I began > working on questions last night, and here is my first draft of a few > questions. There was also an expresses desire to make it multiple choice, > so those options will be added when I get time, as will additional > questions. If you have time, please comment on format of the questions and > also feel free to add to them. I would eventually like to reach 100+ > questions and then break them into easy/med/hard. I also intend to use this > "test" on my new players to help them build confidence, False. > Judge's Test > > > Lambach has the Eye of Hazimel and Sire's Index Finger. They are at long > range with Matteuz. Matteuz is the acting minion and plays Canine Horde at > superior to destroy the Eye with first strike. Lambach plays Thrown Sewer > Lid. Can Lambach choose Thrown Sewer Lid as his strike? No, because he already played Kraken's Kiss at long and burned a blood to make his hand damage agg, and is hoping no one is paying attention. > If he can, does it succeed? If by "succeed" you mean "inflict 3 damage", then there isn't enough data given to answer correctly. > What if instead, Matteuz plays Drawing out the Beast and uses the horde to > strike the Sire's Index Finger. Can Lambach still use the Eye for Potence > and choose as his strike Thrown Sewer Lid? Another add on to this could be, "Does Lambach then take 1 unpreventable damage during the press step?" > Qadir has changed his clan to Malkavian. Is he now considered Camarilla? Never. He's a stinky Assamite. All cards in play just treat him as if he was a Malkavian (and its default sect, Black Hand). > Carlotta Giovanni wants to take an action to go to the ash heap and recover > a Govern the Unaligned. Does she have to announce the card she wants when > she takes the action? Which ash heap is she going to? Which action is she taking? > What if a minion uses the Sargon Fragment, do they have to announce the card > they are going to get? If they're trying to fish out a block attempt, yes. If they want to go unnoticed, then only very softly. > Le Dinh Tho takes the action to look at his Prey's Hand and make him discard > a card. Does he get to see the replacement? No, because if you didn't "Block and Rock" (Rotschrek) him, you're playing wrong. Did you not see the target painted on his forehead? > You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an > action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being > successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge > for successfully bleeding? Why wouldn't you want to keep the counter? > How many discard phase actions do you have? How many do you have? I'll show you yours if you show me mine. > If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? A better question is, "During the Eye of Hazimel Storyline event, what player was able to place the Eye of Hazimel on Jake Washington on Turn 2?" I'll give you a hint: > If the escaped mental patient blocks, and chooses to use his strike for > aggravated damage. Can you keep him from being burned? How? Yes. Always store your cards away from sources of heat and flame. > Tariq attacks Stanislava. He uses the rowan ring to send her to torpor. > Tariq wants to play amaranth, but Stanislava wants to play undead > persistence. Can Tariq play Amaranth? Why? No. The Ghoul Retainer lost his ability to tag her with the ring. > Goratrix is Regent and has Eternal Vigilance. He then merges. What happens > to Regent? Is Goratrix later goes to torpor. Does Eternal Vigilance burn? By "burn", do you mean "not as good as 2nd Tradition?" They're just different. Get over it. > Gabrin plays Sensory Deprivation on Arika. Marcus Vitel calls Banishment on > Gabrin. Does Sensory Deprivation burn? See above. > Gabrin is influenced back out. Does Sensory Deprivation reactivate? Only if you have both Blount Sisters out. (Wonder Twin Powers...) > A different copy of Gabrin is transferred out, does Sensory Deprivation > reactivate? See below. > Garbrin has the Soul Gem of Etrius and a Fortitude Skill Card. He is > burned, and a new copy of Gabrin comes out, what happens to Sensory > Deprivation? Why, what did you do with it? > Lucita bleeds and is not Blocked. Her prey has 9 pool. She plays > Foreshadowing Destruction at superior. She is then deflected to her grand > prey who has 12 pool. How much does she now bleed for? Why didn't you use Advanced Lucita to cancel the reaction card? > Lucita bleeds her prey says "no block". She is then deflected to her grand > prey, who deflects her back to her prey. Can her prey now try to block? He could try. Good luck. > Marcus Vitel bleeds his prey and plays spying mission at superior. The next > turn he bleeds with a Govern the Unaligned. He is not blocked. His prey > wants to play Archon Investigation, and has the pool to play it. He is > unhappy, why? His significant other is not putting out. > Kyoko is untapped. She is unable to hunt. She can take actions. Why can't > she hunt? (There are at least 2 answers) 1. She doesn't have a gun. 2. She doesn't have a license. 3. She went to prison for accidentally shooting a game warden. > Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is > untapped, can she rush again? Yes, but only to enter combat with one of the band members from Rush. And she'd better hurry. > Maxwell has Resilient Mind. Arika bleeds his controller and plays Seduction > on Maxwell. Can Maxwell burn 1 blood to ignore the effects of Seduction? Can Maxwell's controller burn 1 pool to ignore the effects of Seduction? I think he can... > Muaziz has Temptation on her, played by her prey. She gets Rutor's Hand and > burns blood not to take the damage. On her Prey's turn, he burns the > Temptation counters to untap and take control of Muaziz until the end of his > turn. After using Muaziz to bleed, can he untap her with Rutor's Hand? How many turns ago did she get the Hand? How about the Fist? > There are two Anarch Revolts in play. Blythe calls a vote to get rid of the > Anarch Revolt. Another minion plays Delaying Tactics. Can Blythe call > another vote this turn? Not with inferior Auspex. Which printing of Blythe is being used? > Can another minion you control call a vote to get rid of the other Anarch > Revolt in play? I'd rather get rid of the Smiling Jack. Or Anson. > Arika bleeds. Beast blocks her. She plays Kiss of Ra, and sends Beast to > torpor. Can she now play Freak Drive? Can empty minions play Freak Drive? (barring Masochism, Ankara, etc.) > If she finds a way to untap, can she try to bleed again(her first bleed was > cancelled by Kiss of Ra)? At some future point, it'd be nice. You spent 11 pool on her. > Regina is in combat with Muaziz. Muaziz plays Burst of Sunlight. Regina is > immune to aggravated damage. Can Muaziz play Rotschrek? Good thing she CI'ed to Malk and is using the Madness Network. > Muaziz attempts to diablerize Arika. She is blocked and survives combat. > She uses Rutor's Hand to untap. Can she attempt to diablerize Arika again? At some future point, it'd be nice. You spent 11 pool on her. > Can you Entomb Ambrosius? What, at superior? Only if you're blocking and he happens to somehow play a strike card as a vampire. But then, oh wait, are they burning now or are they going to torpor again ; ) ? > Arika bleeds and plays Lost in Crowds. Her prey plays Direct Intervention > to cancel the Lost in Crowds. Can Arika play Lost in Crowds again? Not from your crypt's ashheap, she can't. Because your prey sounds like he's playing the right deck, which kills Arika. > Arika plays Govern the Unaligned at superior. Her Predator plays Direct > Intervention to cancel the Govern the Unaligned. Can she play Govern the > Unaligned again? Never again. She has proven to be incapable of Aligning those who do not wish to be Governed. When this happens, you have to notify the newsgroup so that everyone knows they cannot use Arika to play GtU ever again. > Your Muddled Vampire Hunter attacks a minion controlled by your prey. He > dies. If you play Compel the Spirit to bring him back into play, can he act > this turn? No, because he wants to block actions with the Psychic Projection you gave him. And the Improvised Flamethrower that Reg Driscoll gave him. > How can you get 11 cards in your hand using the Dreams of the Sphinx, assume > you started your turn with 7 cards. Using 2 copies as makeshift chopsticks, perhaps? It's hard enough to get 7 cards in my hands while holding yo mama at the same time. As you can probably tell, I assume nothing. I much prefer to make an ass out of myself and spare you the rod. -- Mike Ooi "You have left the world. Click to continue."

"David Wilson" <danceswithwolvesontopofabuildingareyoustillreadingthisemailyoushouldntbecom e...@umich.edu> escribió en el mensaje news:96hdc.3873$Nz2....@news.itd.umich.edu... > Hello All, > > Some time ago there was discussion about a Judge's Exam, purely optional, > but intended to help Judges learn more. There has been a website set up to > administer this exam, but as far as I know it is not complete yet. I began > working on questions last night, and here is my first draft of a few > questions. There was also an expresses desire to make it multiple choice, > so those options will be added when I get time, as will additional > questions. If you have time, please comment on format of the questions and > also feel free to add to them. I would eventually like to reach 100+ > questions and then break them into easy/med/hard. I also intend to use this > "test" on my new players to help them build confidence. [...] I suggest that if you want to cooperate, you should contact Robert Goudie (rob...@vtesinla.org) and email him your questions and answers in the following format: Category: (RULES, ERRATA, or RULINGS) Q#) Indicates Question Number A#) Answer Number. The application supports multiple choice questions. You can have 2 or more answers. You don't need to do exactly 3 answers like in the example. A#.R) Answer Number Response. This is what will display with the answers. This is the teaching section. Please include references to the rulebook whenever possible. Your best bet here is to quote the rules, errata, rulings, or LSJ's posts. :) Damnans

Colin, Here is my evaluation, 3 Incorrect answers, although 1 of them you got right later in the Test, so I think you did very well. I will implement many of your suggestions, thanks. > And just to take this test for fun...let's see how I do! > > > Lambach has the Eye of Hazimel and Sire's Index Finger. They are at long > > range with Matteuz. Matteuz is the acting minion and plays Canine Horde at > > superior to destroy the Eye with first strike. Lambach plays Thrown Sewer > > Lid. Can Lambach choose Thrown Sewer Lid as his strike? > > Yes, because strikes are both declared before either resolves, so > Lambach will still have his superior potence when the strike is declared. Correct. > > > If he can, does it succeed? > > Yes, assuming he's not knocked into torpor by the damage from the Eye, > because the effects of a strike are determined when the strike is > played, not when it resolves. See also: Talaq taking agg damage from > Burst of Sunlight. Correct > > What if instead, Matteuz plays Drawing out the Beast and uses the horde to > > strike the Sire's Index Finger. Can Lambach still use the Eye for Potence > > and choose as his strike Thrown Sewer Lid? > > Yes. Lambach is immune to the DOtB as it's played. It doesn't stick > around. Correct. > > Qadir has changed his clan to Malkavian. Is he now considered Camarilla? > > Yes. Changing clan changes you to the default sect for that clan. Correct. > > Carlotta Giovanni wants to take an action to go to the ash heap and recover > > a Govern the Unaligned. Does she have to announce the card she wants when > > she takes the action? > > Yes. All parameters for an action have to be announced when the action > is taken, except for votes and "search your library..." cards. You also > have to announce the card you're exchanging from your hand. Correct. > > What if a minion uses the Sargon Fragment, do they have to announce the card > > they are going to get? > > Yes. Correct. > > > Le Dinh Tho takes the action to look at his Prey's Hand and make him discard > > a card. Does he get to see the replacement? > > No. Correct. > > > You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an > > action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being > > successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge > > for successfully bleeding? > > No. The edge is given for a successful bleed, and Sargon gets it for a > successful action. In this case, those are the same. Incorrect. The events do NOT occur simultaneously. You may order them as you see fit. You can burn the Edge to get rid of the Threat Counter, and then gain the edge for a successful bleed. > > How many discard phase actions do you have? > > 1, unless you have Cicatrix, Ulugh Beg, etc, in play. Correct, most people(locally) are puzzled by this one. > > > If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? > > This is, IMHO, a bad question. But anyways, I think the answer is no. > Or, at least, I see no way of doing it. It is intended for fun. The answer is yes. The only way I know is you play Jake Washington as your master phase action. Jake Washington Bleeds with Computer Hack. > > If the escaped mental patient blocks, and chooses to use his strike for > > aggravated damage. Can you keep him from being burned? How? > > Another bad question, but this can be reworded better. Anyways, the > answer here is Rotschreck. Correct. Thanks, I will change it to "if you play Rotschreck is the Escaped Mental Patient burned?" > > I would phrase it as, "An escaped mental patient blocks, range is set to > close, and the EMP chooses to use his strike for aggravated damage. His > Methuselah plays Rotschreck. Does he burn?" > > > Tariq attacks Stanislava. He uses the rowan ring to send her to torpor. > > Tariq wants to play amaranth, but Stanislava wants to play undead > > persistence. Can Tariq play Amaranth? Why? > > Yes, because Tariq is the acting minion and so gets first chance to play > cards. Correct. > > Goratrix is Regent and has Eternal Vigilance. He then merges. What happens > > to Regent? Is Goratrix later goes to torpor. Does Eternal Vigilance burn? > > Regent: Nothing, as he doesn't gain a new title, and there's nothing > specifying it burns if he changes sects. Eternal Vigilence: No, because Correct. > he's no longer Sabbat ("if this Sabbat vampire goes to torpor..."). > However, he also can't make use of the card while Camarilla either ("the > Sabbat vampire with this card..."). Correct. > > Gabrin plays Sensory Deprivation on Arika. Marcus Vitel calls Banishment on > > Gabrin. Does Sensory Deprivation burn? > > Yes, assuming the vote is successful. No, there is no text on Sensory Deprivation that causes the card to burn, it remains in play, although it has no effect. > > Gabrin is influenced back out. Does Sensory Deprivation reactivate? > > No. It's considered a different copy of Gabrin. Correct. > > > A different copy of Gabrin is transferred out, does Sensory Deprivation > > reactivate? > > No, as above. Correct. > > Garbrin has the Soul Gem of Etrius and a Fortitude Skill Card. He is > > burned, and a new copy of Gabrin comes out, what happens to Sensory > > Deprivation? > > It still sits on Arika, uselessly doing nothing. > > > Lucita bleeds and is not Blocked. Her prey has 9 pool. She plays > > Foreshadowing Destruction at superior. She is then deflected to her grand > > prey who has 12 pool. How much does she now bleed for? > > 2, as she is no longer bleeding a Methuselah with less than 10 pool. Incorrect. She played the card at superior, she can't change her mind later. She bleeds for 1. > > Lucita bleeds her prey says "no block". She is then deflected to her grand > > prey, who deflects her back to her prey. Can her prey now try to block? > > Yes. Correct. > > > Marcus Vitel bleeds his prey and plays spying mission at superior. The next > > turn he bleeds with a Govern the Unaligned. He is not blocked. His prey > > wants to play Archon Investigation, and has the pool to play it. He is > > unhappy, why? > > Better to phrase as "Can he play it?". But, anyways, the Spying Mission > only kicks in if the bleed is successful, after which the window to > play Archon Investigation has already passed. Correct. > > Kyoko is untapped. She is unable to hunt. She can take actions. Why can't > > she hunt? (There are at least 2 answers) > > Bad question. Fair. > > 1) No other ready vampires on the table. > 2) She has hunted already, and then played Freak Drive. NRA prevents > her from hunting again. Correct. > > Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is > > untapped, can she rush again? > > No. NRA on cards in play. Correct, although the old Archon did not stay in play and was very abusable. > > Maxwell has Resilient Mind. Arika bleeds his controller and plays Seduction > > on Maxwell. Can Maxwell burn 1 blood to ignore the effects of Seduction? > > No. Resilient Mind only affects action or combat cards. Seduction is > an action modifier. Correct. > > > Muaziz has Temptation on her, played by her prey. She gets Rutor's Hand and > > burns blood not to take the damage. On her Prey's turn, he burns the > > Temptation counters to untap and take control of Muaziz until the end of his > > turn. After using Muaziz to bleed, can he untap her with Rutor's Hand? > > No. It doesn't activate until the original controller's next turn. or the later controlled, assuming she was stolen permanently(I think : ) . > > There are two Anarch Revolts in play. Blythe calls a vote to get rid of the > > Anarch Revolt. Another minion plays Delaying Tactics. Can Blythe call > > another vote this turn? > > No. NRA on votes. Correct. > > > Can another minion you control call a vote to get rid of the other Anarch > > Revolt in play? > > Yes, as the ARs are considered seperate votes. But they can't call > another vote to get rid of the first one. Correct. > > Arika bleeds. Beast blocks her. She plays Kiss of Ra, and sends Beast to > > torpor. Can she now play Freak Drive? > > No. The action was neither successful nor blocked. Correct. > > > If she finds a way to untap, can she try to bleed again(her first bleed was > > cancelled by Kiss of Ra)? > > No. NRA on bleed. Correct. > > Regina is in combat with Muaziz. Muaziz plays Burst of Sunlight. Regina is > > immune to aggravated damage. Can Muaziz play Rotschrek? > > Yes. Rotschreck doesn't care about prevention. Correct. > > Muaziz attempts to diablerize Arika. She is blocked and survives combat. > > She uses Rutor's Hand to untap. Can she attempt to diablerize Arika again? > > Yes. Cardless actions are repeatable. Correct. > > > Can you Entomb Ambrosius? > > Yes, at the inferior. Correct. > > Arika bleeds and plays Lost in Crowds. Her prey plays Direct Intervention > > to cancel the Lost in Crowds. Can Arika play Lost in Crowds again? > > No. NRA on action modifiers. Correct, but not NRA, simply no repeat modifier on the same action, by the same minion. > > Arika plays Govern the Unaligned at superior. Her Predator plays Direct > > Intervention to cancel the Govern the Unaligned. Can she play Govern the > > Unaligned again? Correct. > > Yes. See also Mask of 1000 Faces. > > > Your Muddled Vampire Hunter attacks a minion controlled by your prey. He > > dies. If you play Compel the Spirit to bring him back into play, can he act > > this turn? > > Yes. As I have seen repeatedly over the past two weeks. =P I do it often : ) > > How can you get 11 cards in your hand using the Dreams of the Sphinx, assume > > you started your turn with 7 cards. > > Bad question. But: Dreams of the Sphinx has 2 counters on it, you tap > it during your untap to increase your hand size to 9, during your master > phase, you play another Dreams and tap it to increase your hand size to > 11. I've done this. Correct. thanks for all the help, I will implement many of your suggestions. David Wilson Ann Arbor > --Colin McGuigan

> I'm working under the assumption that unless it's stated in the > question, it's not there. That is, read each question as if, "Unless > otherwise specified, no other cards are in play or have been played..." etc. That is the best assumption, and should be stated as an instruction. I can't completely specify the setting unless I say, no other cards are in effect. [ quoted text not captured ]

> Some of those situations DO arise, and it's not good if a judge hasn't > ever had to deal with THAT kind of wacky stuff before -- he should be > able to understand the process behind getting a ruling, not just be able > to recite all the existing rulings. The only way to get him > understanding the process is to present him with horrendously contrived > crud like the initial example. =) a few of the more convaluted ones were situations I have encountered. I like them, but I should present more mundane ones. David [ quoted text not captured ]

> Additional example: the Baron gets two Celerity skill cards and strikes > hands-for-1, and the opposing minion prevents the damage with Superior > Mettle. Baron plays Pursuit + Withering as his additional strike. > Superior Mettle can be used for the rest of the combat, even though > another one cannot be played. nice question. > >What if a minion uses the Sargon Fragment, do they have to announce the card > >they are going to get? > > Yes -- but NOT the card he's going to exchange from his hand. Correct, I will make this point clear > >Le Dinh Tho takes the action to look at his Prey's Hand and make him discard > >a card. Does he get to see the replacement? > > No. His "hand look" ability is not a continuing effect. > > >You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an > >action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being > >successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge > >for successfully bleeding? > > No. You may only gain the Edge once per action. Incorrect.see other posts. > > >If you go first, can you get the edge on the first turn? If so, how? > > Jake Washington bleeds with Computer Hacking. > > >If the escaped mental patient blocks, and chooses to use his strike for > >aggravated damage. Can you keep him from being burned? How? > > Besides Left for Dead, you mean? yes. > > >Tariq attacks Stanislava. He uses the rowan ring to send her to torpor. > >Tariq wants to play amaranth, but Stanislava wants to play undead > >persistence. Can Tariq play Amaranth? Why? > > No. Stanislava isn't going to torpor anymore. He can play Amaranth, he is acting and gets to play cards in response to the going to torport before Stanislava plays UP. > >Kyoko is untapped. She is unable to hunt. She can take actions. Why can't > >she hunt? (There are at least 2 answers) > > Suggestion: Don't put brain teasers in a Judge's Exam. You're not > testing their ability to judge with this question. ;) Agreed. > > >Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is > >untapped, can she rush again? > > With the Archon: Yes, because Archon is not a card in play. Archon has changed. It is now a card in play. [ quoted text not captured ]

David Wilson wrote: >>>You have a threat counter and do not control the edge. Sargon takes an >>>action to bleed. He is successful. Can you get the edge for Sargon being >>>successful, burn it to get rid of the threat counter and the gain the edge >>>for successfully bleeding? >> >>No. The edge is given for a successful bleed, and Sargon gets it for a >>successful action. In this case, those are the same. > > Incorrect. The events do NOT occur simultaneously. You may order them as > you see fit. You can burn the Edge to get rid of the Threat Counter, and > then gain the edge for a successful bleed. <PEDANTRY> Actually, you cannot order the two "Edge gain" effects as you like. You get the edge for the successful bleed at action resolution. You get the Edge from Sargon's effect after resolution. So you burn the Edge to get rid of the Threat Counter and then gain the Edge from Sargon's effect. </PEDANTRY> [ quoted text not captured ]

My 2 cents for this is: Make all the answers Yes/No or True/False. It will reduce the amount of time required to take the test, although with a multiple choice test, while it will take longer would provide a better results. or to put it simply, No essay questions. Raille

"Derek Ray" <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >Tyler is an Archon and has already used it to rush this turn. She is >untapped, can she rush again? With the Archon: Yes, because Archon is not a card in play. Without the Archon: Sure, play Bum's Rush all you like. Actually the Archon IS a card in play. Raille