Freak Drive and PAs (LSJ)

Can you play Freak Drive before the action and after blocks. In particular, If a Political Action is successful, can the methuselah play the Freak Drive and redraw before tallying the votes and beginning the Political Action?

[ quoted text not captured ] No. Freak Drive is played after the action. At normal, only if the action was succesful, at super, even if the action was blocked, but always after the action. James B.

Quicksilver (michae...@lmco.com) wrote> > Can you play Freak Drive before the action and after blocks. > In particular, If a Political Action is successful, can the > methuselah play the Freak Drive and redraw before tallying > the votes and beginning the Political Action? No. "Before the action", there is no action to modify. "Before the action" means before you tap and play the PA card. Freak Drive is played after a successful action (inferior), which includes the resolution of the action. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

In article <5ssbb6$g...@news.wizards.com>, L. Scott Johnson <vte...@wizards.com> wrote: >Quicksilver (michae...@lmco.com) wrote> >> Can you play Freak Drive before the action and after blocks. >No. "Before the action", there is no action to modify. >Freak Drive is played after a successful action (inferior), which >includes the resolution of the action. So, if I've got this correct, Freak Drive is played *before* the combat resulting from a successful Bum's Rush (since a successful rush action is complete before the combat begins) but (at superior) *after* the combat resulting from a block of an action (since the combat resulting from a block is part of the action resolution). -- Justin Fang (jus...@ugcs.caltech.edu) This space intentionally left blank.

Justin Fang wrote: > > In article <5ssbb6$g...@news.wizards.com>, > L. Scott Johnson <vte...@wizards.com> wrote: > >Quicksilver (michae...@lmco.com) wrote> > >> Can you play Freak Drive before the action and after blocks. > > >No. "Before the action", there is no action to modify. > > >Freak Drive is played after a successful action (inferior), which > >includes the resolution of the action. > > So, if I've got this correct, Freak Drive is played *before* the combat > resulting from a successful Bum's Rush (since a successful rush action is > complete before the combat begins) but (at superior) *after* the combat > resulting from a block of an action (since the combat resulting from a block > is part of the action resolution). Just the opposite. It is played after the successful resolution of the action (inferior), and can be played when the action is blocked, before the block-induced combat, at superior. Combat is the resolution of a Bum's Rush. So Freak Drive would be played after that combat (i.e., after resolution). But combat resulting from a block occurs after the block, not as a part of it. And superior Freak Drive is played *immediately* after the block. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <33F2EE...@regency.wizards.com>, LSJ (VtES Rep) <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote: [I get Freak Drive wrong.] >It is played after the successful resolution of the action (inferior), >and can be played when the action is blocked, before the block-induced >combat, at superior. >Combat is the resolution of a Bum's Rush. So Freak Drive would be >played after that combat (i.e., after resolution). Er, but I thought you couldn't Form of Mist a successful Bum's Rush because the action was alreday complete. Did I misinterpret that? >But combat resulting from a block occurs after the block, not as >a part of it. And superior Freak Drive is played *immediately* after >the block. Ah, okay. [ quoted text not captured ]

Justin Fang wrote: > > In article <33F2EE...@regency.wizards.com>, > LSJ (VtES Rep) <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote: > >It is played after the successful resolution of the action (inferior), > >and can be played when the action is blocked, before the block-induced > >combat, at superior. > > >Combat is the resolution of a Bum's Rush. So Freak Drive would be > >played after that combat (i.e., after resolution). > > Er, but I thought you couldn't Form of Mist a successful Bum's Rush because > the action was alreday complete. Did I misinterpret that? No. Here's the breakdown of most actions: 1. Announce action (tap acting minion, play card if any) 2. Resolve all block attempts. After successful block: resolve combat 3. If unblocked, resolve action. 4. <End Action> "Resolve Action" in the case of Bum's Rush is the combat with the target minion. If Form of Mist is played during that time (which it cannot be, since it gives the acting minion unneeded stealth), then the action continues. The next step is: End Action, so the action ends. Form of Mist on a block-combat simply moves on to the next block attempt phase (and then to the "Resolve Action" if no more blocks are successful). [ quoted text not captured ]