rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Two simple questions

6 messages from 5 participants · 06 June 1997 – 13 June 1997
original thread on Google Groups

Fred Banville

My pals and I where puzzled by those two situations... If you are in an Immortal grapple, do the Sengir Dagger or Femur of Toomler still have their effects? And is Hidden Lurker a blockable action? If so, does the blocker have a strike on the first round? Thank you for your time :) Fred Banville

JlB1925

>If you are in an Immortal grapple, do the Sengir Dagger or Femur >of Toomler still have their effects? No. These are weapons and using them is not a hand strike. (He's got your hands, so neither of you can grab any weapons.) >And is Hidden Lurker a blockable action? If so, does the blocker have >a strike on the first round? In fact, it's not even an action. This has errata; it's now an action modifier. --- Liam Burke "The Democrats can't pull it together if we rip them apart." -overheard

L. Scott Johnson

JlB1925 wrote: > > >If you are in an Immortal grapple, do the Sengir Dagger or Femur > >of Toomler still have their effects? > No. These are weapons and using them is not a hand strike. (He's got > your hands, so neither of you can grab any weapons.) Correct. > >And is Hidden Lurker a blockable action? If so, does the blocker have > >a strike on the first round? > In fact, it's not even an action. This has errata; it's now an action > modifier. Correct. Full errataed card text: Hidden Lurker. Action Modifier. Obfuscate. Usable only by an untapped vampire other than the acting minion after the acting minion is blocked and combat is over. Tap this vampire. This vampire now enters combat with the blocking minion. The first round of combat, the blocking minion cannot use any strikes. Superior: As above, but with an optional press. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Ed Gross

Fred Banville <banv...@ift.ulaval.ca> wrote in article <3398D8...@ift.ulaval.ca>... > My pals and I where puzzled by those two situations... (>snip<) > And is Hidden Lurker a blockable action? If so, does the blocker have > a strike on the first round? Hidden Lurker is an action, and therefore blockable(happens in my group almost every time it is used). If blocked, the blockers has an action the first round. My question is can anyone block this (I think so, after all, it's not directed, but I've been wrong before.) Ed (>snip<) > Fred Banville >

JlB1925

>My question is can anyone block this (I think so, after all, >it's not directed, but I've been wrong before.) Well, considering it's been errataed to an action modifier, I doubt it. [ quoted text not captured ]

James B. Floate

Hullo Fred, Fred Banville wrote: > > My pals and I where puzzled by those two situations... Only two? you are doing well. :) > > If you are in an Immortal grapple, do the Sengir Dagger or Femur > of Toomler still have their effects? Unfortunately no. Immortal Grapple says 'only hand strikes may be used..' and the Sengir Dagger and The Femur of Toomler are melee weapons, which do 'melee weapon' strikes, and hence may not be used while being immortally grappled. You can add to melee weapons damage with cards like undead strength, but that would increase the 'hand damage' from the strike not change it into a 'hand strike'. If you feel thats pretty lawyer-ish, thats because it is. > And is Hidden Lurker a blockable action? If so, does the blocker have > a strike on the first round? Hidden Lurker is in fact now an Action Modifer card. the errata for VTES features this and can be found at the Rulemonger's homepage. > Thank you for your time :) No prob, esp for someone with as cool a name as you. James B. (hope I got that right, last time LSJ picked me up for indiscreet use of the term 'controlled')