Mehemet of the Ahl-i-Batin

Does this guy's ability require the target vampire to have a Discipline card, or can it be used just to burn a blood? Vice versa, does it require that vampire to have blood, or can he burn a Discipline card off of an empty vamp?

Jozxyqk wrote: > > Does this guy's ability require the target vampire to have > a Discipline card, or can it be used just to burn a blood? The former. > Vice versa, does it require that vampire to have blood, or can > he burn a Discipline card off of an empty vamp? The latter. It's OK to burn blood from an empty vampire. It's not OK to target a card (like a Master: Discipline card) that doesn't exist. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Jozxyqk wrote: >> >> Does this guy's ability require the target vampire to have >> a Discipline card, or can it be used just to burn a blood? > The former. > >> Vice versa, does it require that vampire to have blood, or can >> he burn a Discipline card off of an empty vamp? > The latter. It's OK to burn blood from an empty vampire. It's not > OK to target a card (like a Master: Discipline card) that doesn't > exist. So he's not particularly great of a card... But still it leaves him with an interesting strategy, giving a discipline to a rival vampire and then destroying it and burning their blood. Very nice assistance for Temptation :)

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3B34FA92...@white-wolf.com>... > Jozxyqk wrote: > > > > Does this guy's ability require the target vampire to have > > a Discipline card, or can it be used just to burn a blood? > > The former. > > > Vice versa, does it require that vampire to have blood, or can > > he burn a Discipline card off of an empty vamp? > > The latter. It's OK to burn blood from an empty vampire. It's not > OK to target a card (like a Master: Discipline card) that doesn't > exist. ok. so is this a reversal on the following post which i got off a search for "mehemet" in google: **** From: L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu) Subject: Re: Hey Scalpel! misc. Q's Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad Date: 1996/11/25 David Pontes <l41...@alfa.ist.utl.pt> writes: > Good evening. These questions have troubled my mind recently: > - The Mehemet of the Ahl-i-Batin may burn a disc. card and a >blood with a (D) action. Can he do just one of these effects (e.g. just >burn a blood)? Judging by the way Cryptic Mission is handled (esp. the superior) version, you can use Mehemet's special ability to burn a blood on a vampire without burning a skill card - based purely on card text (as the ruling on Cryptic Mission relies on card text over card concept). **** or am i just way behind on current rulings and it hasn't been supposed to be played like this for years? O:) thanks, salem.

[ quoted text not captured ] Mehemet hasn't been played much at all, I think. :-) Sorry for the conflicting answers (note: the original answer was given by someone who was not associated officially with the game at the time) - the former was made before the ruling that things that target cards must have an available target. E.g., when the original ruling was made, it was legal to play Strike: Destroy Weapon even if your opponent had no weapon. That is no longer the case. [ quoted text not captured ]