rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

the golden rule for cards

2 messages from 2 participants · 26 May 1996 – 28 May 1996
original thread on Google Groups

Murcalumis

on page 33 of the V:tES starter-deck instruction booklet, "THE GOLDEN RULE FOR CARDS" reads: "Whenever the cards contradict the rules, the cards take precedence." how many people use this concept? whose rules does this apply to: just the booklet's or everything else from wotc? this in mind, two questions about cat burglary (my appologies if the V:tES version answers my questions -- i would appreciate if someone could post the V:tES wording...). jyhad version with errata correction: cat burglary, action, celerity, +1 stealth (D) Bleed, but if more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the excess. +1 stealth (D) Bleed any Methuselah, but if more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the excess. question one: wouldn't this imply that bleeds can only be directed at one's prey? question two: can i bleed myself with the superior version? according to mr. wylie, (D) actions cannot be directed against yourself, or cards under your control, unless apparent from card text. "any Methuselah" doesn't explicitly exclude me but it's not quite apparent either... --V--V-- simulacrum "Modern art wishes to be negative, critical, innovative and a perpetual surpassing, as well as immediately (or almost) assimilated, accepted, integrated, consumed. One must surrender to the evidence: art no longer contests anything, if it ever did." -- Jean Baudrillard

Thomas R Wylie

Murcalumis <murca...@aol.com> wrote: >"Whenever the cards contradict the rules, the cards take precedence." >how many people use this concept? whose rules does this apply to: just >the booklet's or everything else from wotc? This applies to rules released in rules team rulings as well as those in the rulebook. This should be applied whenever applicable. The trick is to not reading something into a card that isn't there. The most common mistake in this area is to assume that because a card isn't reminding you of something, that something isn't true for that card. In general, cards that break the rules will do so explicitly. >this in mind, two questions about cat burglary (my appologies if the V:tES >version answers my questions -- i would appreciate if someone could post >the V:tES wording...). jyhad version with errata correction: cat >burglary, action, celerity, +1 stealth (D) Bleed, but if more than 1 pool >is bled with this action, ignore the excess. +1 stealth (D) Bleed any >Methuselah, but if more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the >excess. question one: wouldn't this imply that bleeds can only be >directed at one's prey? question two: can i bleed myself with the >superior version? The ideal Cat Burglary wording, which never card has as printed, is something like: (D) Bleed your prey with +1 stealth. If you bleed for more than 1 pool, ignore the excess. * (D) Bleed with +1 stealth. If you bleed for more than 1 pool, ignore the excess. >according to mr. wylie, (D) actions cannot be directed against yourself, >or cards under your control, unless apparent from card text. "any >Methuselah" doesn't explicitly exclude me but it's not quite apparent >either... (D) actions can be directed against any player other than yourself, unless the card limits its scope. In the case of the corrected Cat Burglary text, the basic versions is a (D) action that says it can only be directed against your prey, so that's the only person you can bleed. In the superior text, that stipulation is lifted, so you can bleed anyone (other than yourself). Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.