Advanced mechanic and merging

New preview up, folks...here's the skinny on the new terms: Advanced Vampire An advancement card is a vampire card in all respects, so it can be influenced in the normal manner. In addition, you can merge the advancement with the associated regular "base" vampire if you control one and the other is in your uncontrolled region. This costs 4 transfers and 1 pool during your influence phase. When merged, the counters and cards on the vampire remain, and the two crypt cards are treated as a single vampire card, even if Banished, until the vampire is burned. When merged, the vampire has the special abilities of both the base and advanced cards. The rest of the base card is ignored (capacity, Disciplines, etc.). The advancement card applies in full. Some merged cards have an additional effect that only applies when the two cards are merged. This effect is identified in the card text by a "merged" icon. The advanced vampire (merged or not) will contest other copies of the same vampire (advanced or not) in play, as usual. Uh....wow....this could be cool. Makes room for Advanced Bloodlines eventually. Yummy.

[ quoted text not captured ] If anarch has an advanced archon vampire... I'm afraid of a tyler combo... Would make cyrpts more interesting at the very least... It's a neat idea... Tariq would be popular(even with the 4 cap hit..) Muaziz is gonna be in all advanced rush decks... Pochtli, dragos... Ian of course... Just gonna increase the chance of a very bad crypt draw... -- Direct access to this group with http://web2news.com http://web2news.com/?rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

>> New preview up, folks...here's the skinny on the new terms: >> >> Advanced Vampire >> >> An advancement card is a vampire card in all respects, so it can be >> influenced in the normal manner. In addition, you can >> merge the advancement >> with the associated regular "base" vampire if you control > etc.. > > If anarch has an advanced archon vampire... I'm afraid of a tyler > combo... Would make cyrpts more interesting at the very least... > > It's a neat idea... > > Tariq would be popular(even with the 4 cap hit..) > Muaziz is gonna be in all advanced rush decks... > Pochtli, dragos... Ian of course... > > Just gonna increase the chance of a very bad crypt draw... BLAH... Just thought of a interesting one... Advanced crypt with NEC... They stack on top Ezmerelda... When he's low... You toast him via Ezmerelda's special... The advanced is removed from the game but Ezmerelda isn't... Possession her back up... Then do it again your next turn... Or possession at basic to be able to do it all over again... [ quoted text not captured ]

"Kulaid" <kulaid.ne...@web2news.net> wrote in message news:2550...@web2news.com... > > If anarch has an advanced archon vampire... I'm afraid of a tyler > > combo... Would make cyrpts more interesting at the very least... > > > > It's a neat idea... > > > > Tariq would be popular(even with the 4 cap hit..) > > Muaziz is gonna be in all advanced rush decks... > > Pochtli, dragos... Ian of course... > > > > Just gonna increase the chance of a very bad crypt draw... > > BLAH... Just thought of a interesting one... > > Advanced crypt with NEC... They stack on top Ezmerelda... When he's > low... You toast him via Ezmerelda's special... The advanced is removed > from the game but Ezmerelda isn't... Possession her back up... Then do > it again your next turn... Or possession at basic to be able to do it > all over again... ??? I get the idea you're misinterpreting the Advancement mechanic? The way it works is, if there exists a vampire with the Advanced symbol on it, and the same name as a non-Advanced vampire, it can be merged with the non-Advanced version of itself by paying 1 pool and 4 transfers during your influence phase. You can't just merge any old Advanced vamp onto any old non- Advanced vamp to combine their abilities. Even if you *could* do what you're suggesting with Ezmerelda, since you treat both cards as a single vampire card in all respects, I'd expect that the base Ezmerelda would be just as out-of-game as the advanced one. After all, if you "remove Ezmerelda from the game", you're going to have to remove the entire vampire, which happens to be made up of two physical cards. Josh confuzzled

kulaid.ne...@web2news.net writes: >>> An advancement card is a vampire card in all respects, so it can be >>> influenced in the normal manner. In addition, you can >>> merge the advancement >>> with the associated regular "base" vampire if you control >>> etc.. > >> If anarch has an advanced archon vampire... >>I'm afraid of a tyler >> combo... Would make cyrpts more >>interesting at the very least... >Advanced crypt with NEC... They stack on top Ezmerelda... >When he's low... You toast him via Ezmerelda's special... >The advanced is removed from the game but Ezmerelda isn't... You folks are missing something - you can only advance the *associated base vampire*. Only advanced Tyler can advance Tyler, only advanced Ez can advance Ez, etc. I assume WW will avoid any particularly gross advancement combinations (such as an Archon Tyler) Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com) "It is better to be wrong than to be vague" - Freeman Dyson

[ quoted text not captured ] Blah, I scan throuhg it.. guess I didn't read too much into the details... But burning the advanced stack and possessiong them both back out is still a good idea... =D [ quoted text not captured ]

Kulaid wrote: > Blah, I scan throuhg it.. guess I didn't read too much into the > details... But burning the advanced stack and possessiong them both > back out is still a good idea... =D If you possess one of them back and then the other, you'd end up contesting them with yourself, so the second one possessed would simply be burned. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Kulaid wrote: >> Blah, I scan throuhg it.. guess I didn't read too much into the >> details... But burning the advanced stack and possessiong them both >> back out is still a good idea... =D > If you possess one of them back and then the other, you'd end up > contesting them with yourself, so the second one possessed would > simply be burned. But, if your "Advanced" vampire (with 2 cards stacked) gets burned, can you choose to Possess out either one? Or can you Posssess the two cards as a single vampire?

Jozxyqk wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] no, because when the merged vampire cards are burned, they become separate crypt cards.