Thoughts Betrayed

Hello ! I would be very glad if someone could answer these maybe simple questions. 1. On the DS card Thoughts Betrayed it says in the superior version of text that opposing minion can´t use any card during this combat. Does that mean weapons and mastercards already played on the minion ? 2. On the card Bum´s Rush it says that you get an optional manuever in this combat. If the action gets blocked do you still get the manuever in that combat insted ? Thanks ... niklas....@mbox301.swipnet.se

"Niklas Jansson och Åsa Johansson" <niklas....@mbox301.swipnet.se> writes: >Hello ! >I would be very glad if someone could answer these maybe simple questions. >1. On the DS card Thoughts Betrayed it says in the superior version of text >that opposing minion can´t use any card during this combat. Does that mean >weapons and mastercards already played on the minion ? No. It has been errataed to only prevent the opposing minion from *playing* cards. Cards already in play may be used as normal. >2. On the card Bum´s Rush it says that you get an optional manuever in this >combat. If the action gets blocked do you still get the manuever in that >combat insted ? No. Blocked actions get no benefit with respect to what would've happened if the action had remained unblocked. Action Modifiers (Uncontrollable Rage, etc.) would remain in effect, of course. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Refuse Novacaine - http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | Transcend Dental Medication! Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

Niklas Jansson och Åsa Johansson wrote: > > Hello ! > > I would be very glad if someone could answer these maybe simple questions. > > 1. On the DS card Thoughts Betrayed it says in the superior version of text > that opposing minion can´t use any card during this combat. Does that mean > weapons and mastercards already played on the minion ? > > 2. On the card Bum´s Rush it says that you get an optional manuever in this > combat. If the action gets blocked do you still get the manuever in that > combat insted ? > > Thanks ... > > niklas....@mbox301.swipnet.se 1. Cards in play may be used. Master cards may be played. The only restriction is that the MINION may not PLAY any cards. 2. Since the card was played prior to the TB, it remains in effect. On the other hand the minion was blocked. Because of the block, not because of the TB, the maneuver is lost.

Michael Kelly (ke...@lmsc.lockheed.com) wrote: : Niklas Jansson och Åsa Johansson wrote: : > : > 1. On the DS card Thoughts Betrayed it says in the superior : > version of text that opposing minion can´t use any card during : > this combat. Does that mean weapons and mastercards already played : > on the minion ? : : 1. Cards in play may be used. Master cards may be played. The only : restriction is that the MINION may not PLAY any cards. I was under the impression that the ruling was that NO cards may be played from the hand. At all. None. This would include master cards. Any comments either way? -spongy

James Puzzo (jam...@dgii.com) wrote: [someone else wrote] : : : : 1. Cards in play may be used. Master cards may be played. The only : : restriction is that the MINION may not PLAY any cards. : I was under the impression that the ruling was that NO cards may be played : from the hand. At all. None. This would include master cards. : Any comments either way? : -spongy Hi James, The card text is that the opposing MINION may not use any cards, and I expect the errata was that it was only the minion who is not able to play cards from the hand. I haven't actually kept up on the errata to TB, but I think card text is a good reason to believe that masters (OOT naturally, since you can't play TB during a master phase) will still be playable by anyone who could normally play them. Josh "shake barrels of whisky down my throat i'll still see straight"

du...@newton.ruph.cornell.edu (Joshua Duffin) writes: >James Puzzo (jam...@dgii.com) wrote: >[someone else wrote] >: : 1. Cards in play may be used. Master cards may be played. The only >: : restriction is that the MINION may not PLAY any cards. >: I was under the impression that the ruling was that NO cards may be played >: from the hand. At all. None. This would include master cards. >: Any comments either way? >Hi James, >The card text is that the opposing MINION may not use any cards, and I >expect the errata was that it was only the minion who is not able to play >cards from the hand. I haven't actually kept up on the errata to TB, but >I think card text is a good reason to believe that masters (OOT naturally, >since you can't play TB during a master phase) will still be playable by >anyone who could normally play them. Yes, and other minions may also play minion cards - like Legacy of Power. The restriction is only on the opposing minion. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Kirk: How's Ensign Pilsbury? http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | McCoy: He's Bread, Jim. [ quoted text not captured ]