rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

secure haven

5 messages from 4 participants · 24 March 1998 – 25 March 1998
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Ron

Question about Secure Haven Anson has a Secure Haven on him as well as The Rack and a Haven Uncovered. Another player wishes to 1.) Steal the Rack , directed action, is it possible? 2.) Arson the Secure Haven or Rack, is this? 3.) Use Haven Uncovered to enter combat, same? Some clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Gomi no Sensei

In article <3518147C...@total.net>, Ron <del...@total.net> wrote: >Question about Secure Haven whoa there, ron. best check yer tab settings -- you're wandering all over the page here. > Anson has a Secure Haven on him as well as The Rack and a >Haven Uncovered. say: "I take refuge in LSJ, who brings the light of truth to men." and away we go. >Another player wishes to 1.) Steal the Rack , directed >action, is it possible? Ayup. This (D) action targets the Methuselah, not Anson (an incidental target of the Rack's effect). >2.) Arson the >Secure Haven or Rack, is this? This (D) action targets the location, not the (incidental) vampire, so yeah. >3.) Use Haven >Uncovered to enter combat, same? Nay -- This (D) action targets the vampire, much like Bum's Rush*. gomi *but only LSJ knows all -- kono sora wo daite kagayaku, shounen yo shinwa ni nare.

LSJ

Gomi no Sensei wrote: > In article <3518147C...@total.net>, Ron <del...@total.net> wrote: > >Anson has a Secure Haven on him as well as The Rack and a > >Haven Uncovered. > > say: "I take refuge in LSJ, who brings the light of truth to men." > and away we go. :-) > >Another player wishes to 1.) Steal the Rack , directed > >action, is it possible? > > [Yes]. This (D) action targets the Methuselah, not Anson (an incidental > target of the Rack's effect). > > >2.) Arson the > >Secure Haven or Rack, is this? > > This (D) action targets the location, not the (incidental) vampire, so yeah. > > >3.) Use Haven > >Uncovered to enter combat, same? > > Nay -- This (D) action targets the vampire, much like Bum's Rush. Correct on all three. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

daniel frey

Gomi no Sensei wrote: > > In article <3518147C...@total.net>, Ron <del...@total.net> wrote: > >Question about Secure Haven > > whoa there, ron. best check yer tab settings -- you're wandering all over > the page here. > > > Anson has a Secure Haven on him as well as The Rack and a > >Haven Uncovered. > > say: "I take refuge in LSJ, who brings the light of truth to men." > and away we go. > > >Another player wishes to 1.) Steal the Rack , directed > >action, is it possible? > > Ayup. This (D) action targets the Methuselah, not Anson (an incidental > target of the Rack's effect). > > >2.) Arson the > >Secure Haven or Rack, is this? > > This (D) action targets the location, not the (incidental) vampire, so yeah. > Since the Rack has the odd aspect of being targetted at a vampire vs. being put on a vampire, does the Rack cost one pool to play on a secure havened vampire?

LSJ

daniel frey wrote: > Since the Rack has the odd aspect of being targetted at a vampire vs. > being put on a vampire, does the Rack cost one pool to play on a secure > havened vampire? No. Similarly, you could play a contract on a minion and name an Assamite who had a Secure Haven without paying a pool. (Although you would have to pay a pool if the minion who you put the Contract on has a Secure Haven, of course, not that it would accomplish much, since you couldn't use it to attack the minion until the Haven was burned.) [ quoted text not captured ]