Some rules help, please.

Hi all! I've been interested in and buying Jyhad/VTES cards since the game came out, but I haven't had much of a chance to play. My work related travel has really slacked off so I've had a chance to play a lot more. Of course this has caused more than a few questions about rules. I've surfed around various web sites looking for FAQs and rule clarifications and haven't had much luck. The two or three that I found didn't answer the questions that set me to looking. I'd like to get some input from y'all on some questions we have. Right we're all sticking to the basic rules while my wife learns the game. So please take that into consideration if you can. 1: Can a tapped vampire react w/o playing something like a Wake w/ Evening's Freshness? Example: I play a Bum's Rush to attack a tapped vampire, the action isn't blocked by any other minions and is successful. My opponent claims that his minion can do hand damage, or use equipment, even though he is already tapped. He says he (the minion) just can't play any cards. I feel that a tapped minion cannot act/react or do anything unless something like Wake is played. 2: If Cryptic Mission is played on a vampire w/ zero blood, what happens to that vampire? Thanks for your help. I've subbed to this newsgroup so I can start following all the questions. jaal...@sprynet.com

Alex wrote: > > 1: Can a tapped vampire react w/o playing something like a Wake w/ > Evening's Freshness? No. But that's not what you're asking in the example below. To "react" is to play a reaction card. See below. > Example: I play a Bum's Rush to attack a tapped > vampire, the action isn't blocked by any other minions and is successful. > My opponent claims that his minion can do hand damage, or use equipment, > even though he is already tapped. He says he (the minion) just can't play > any cards. I feel that a tapped minion cannot act/react or do anything > unless something like Wake is played. Both you *and* your friend are wrong. A tapped minion cannot take an action, block, or play a reaction card (unless the reaction card *says* it can played by a tapped minion, like Wake). But a vampire's tapped/untapped status is irrelevant once combat is joined. A tapped vampire in combat may play combat cards, make whatever strikes are available to it, and so on without restriction. > > 2: If Cryptic Mission is played on a vampire w/ zero blood, what happens to > that vampire? > Nothing. Only combat damage can send a vampire to torpor. Note that if the acting vampire has superior thaumaturgy, he *still* gains 1 blood. Chris Mattern

Alex wrote: > 1: Can a tapped vampire react w/o playing something like a Wake w/ > Evening's Freshness? Example: I play a Bum's Rush to attack a tapped > vampire, the action isn't blocked by any other minions and is successful. > My opponent claims that his minion can do hand damage, or use equipment, > even though he is already tapped. In fact, he can. Beeing tapped means, he cannot take further actions in his minion phase and cannot play reaction cards in other methusalah's turns unless he plays some sort of WwEF. But he can defend himself if attacked if it isn't stated otherwise on some cards (for example Hidden Lurker or Fast Reaction). > 2: If Cryptic Mission is played on a vampire w/ zero blood, what happens to > that vampire? > That vampire looses zero blood (he has none and Cryptic Missin deals no damage). In the superior version the action minion gets one blood, though. -- Michael Beer, Dortmund, Germany, ICQ 1175389 -------------------------------------------- Life is founded on Chaos. So if you find your living room became disordered: Don't panic! It's natural... :)

> 1: Can a tapped vampire react w/o playing something like a Wake w/ > Evening's Freshness? Example: I play a Bum's Rush to attack a tapped > vampire, the action isn't blocked by any other minions and is successful. > My opponent claims that his minion can do hand damage, or use equipment, > even though he is already tapped. He says he (the minion) just can't play > any cards. I feel that a tapped minion cannot act/react or do anything > unless something like Wake is played. > Here your opponent, IMHO, is right. The only thing that a tapped vampire can't do is to initiate a block or to play reaction cards (unless the card states that they are playable by a tapped vampire). If you Bum Rush one of your opponent's tapped vampires, he can play combat cards normally. That is, the property of being tapped does not prevent him from engaging in combat, it only prevents him from blocking the action. And since the point of Bum's Rush is to get into combat, well, there isn't much point in blocking it if you can deal with the damage... :o) Hope that helps.

Chris Mattern wrote: > Only combat damage can send a vampire to torpor. Any damage can send a vampire to torpor if the vampire can't burn blood to heal the damage. This includes damage from non-combat effects like Talbot's Chainsaw's untap damage, damage sustained from burning the Path of Blood, etc. The reason why Cryptic Mission doesn't send its target to torpor even if the target has zero blood is that Cryptic Mission doesn't deal damage to vampire - it only causes them to burn blood. And all vampires always ignore "burn blood" effects once they have zero blood. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

In article <338046...@pop.dn.net>, "Shawn A. Hartley" <shar...@pop.dn.net> writes [ quoted text not captured ] Am I the only one who thinks that the original question started up because someone's been playing Magic? In Jyhad, tapped status has no effect on anything besides whether you can react or take an action. In Magic, if someone is tapped before strike resolution (or, at least, the equivalent phase) they deal no damage. Damn you, all of you, you evil Magic players. :-) -- James Coupe