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Hello there, I have a couple of questions. First, how do you play brujah debate when you control two vamps, one 6 cap. and one 5 cap. The 6 cap. is already tapped and has sensory deprivation on it when I play the brujah debate. Can I still choose the 6 cap. vamp for the debate? Does any of this change when the highest cap. vamp is in torpor? Can Kostantin steal the shackles of enkidu of a 'shackled' vampire? Finally, if one of my vamps blocks another vamp and engages in combat, my vamp uses disguised weapon to play a white phospherous grenade and after that I play a rotschreck. Is the grenade burned? Thanks a lot, jw.

In article <37DF4A...@planet.nl>, wijs...@planet.nl wrote: > Hello there, > I have a couple of questions. First, how do you play brujah debate when > you control two vamps, one 6 cap. and one 5 cap. The 6 cap. is already > tapped and has sensory deprivation on it when I play the brujah debate. > Can I still choose the 6 cap. vamp for the debate? Does any of this > change when the highest cap. vamp is in torpor? You must choose the 6 cap. It doesn't matter if he's already tapped and/or in torpor. > Can Kostantin steal the shackles of enkidu of a 'shackled' vampire? Yes. And then he will be the "shackled" vampire. [LSJ 02-JUN-1999] > Finally, if one of my vamps blocks another vamp and engages in combat, > my vamp uses disguised weapon to play a white phospherous grenade and > after that I play a rotschreck. Is the grenade burned? No. The grenade is not burned until strike resolution, which doesn't occur after Rotschreck is played in your example. -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

wijsman wrote in message <37DF4A...@planet.nl>... Official answers from LSJ may be delayed until he extracts himself out from underneath a hurricane... >Hello there, >I have a couple of questions. First, how do you play brujah debate when >you control two vamps, one 6 cap. and one 5 cap. The 6 cap. is already >tapped and has sensory deprivation on it when I play the brujah debate. >Can I still choose the 6 cap. vamp for the debate? Does any of this >change when the highest cap. vamp is in torpor? > I don't think that theres any restriction against selecting the SenseDepped 6 cap as fufilling the text on Brujah Debate. If it mirrors situations like burning blood on an empty vamp, this should be legal... >Can Kostantin steal the shackles of enkidu of a 'shackled' vampire? > Sure. >Finally, if one of my vamps blocks another vamp and engages in combat, >my vamp uses disguised weapon to play a white phospherous grenade and >after that I play a rotschreck. Is the grenade burned? > No. You don't reach strike resolution, thus, no burned WPG... Regards, R. David Zopf Atom Weaver (& V:EKN Prince of Charlotte, NC)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:25:58 +0200, wijsman <wijs...@planet.nl> wrote: >Hello there, >I have a couple of questions. First, how do you play brujah debate when >you control two vamps, one 6 cap. and one 5 cap. The 6 cap. is already >tapped and has sensory deprivation on it when I play the brujah debate. >Can I still choose the 6 cap. vamp for the debate? Does any of this >change when the highest cap. vamp is in torpor? Card text, Brujah Debate "Master. Put this card in play. Each Methuselah with a ready Brujah must tap the highest capacity Brujah he or she controls during his or her master phase. Each Brujah gets +1 hand damage and an optional maneuver each combat. This card may be burned by any minion who is not Ventrue as a (D) action." The highest capacity Brujah you control is the poor Sense-Depped bastard. So, during your master phase, you tap him. Tapping a tapped vampire means he stays tapped. Card text doesn't specify to tap an "untapped" Brujah, or a "ready" Brujah, so no matter where that 6-cap goes, you do not get the option - you MUST choose him to tap as long as he's yours. -- Derek (replying by email? remove the nospam from my domain :)

> No. The grenade is not burned until strike resolution, which doesn't > occur after Rotschreck is played in your example. > LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. On a similar note, a Dragon's Breath Rounds burns the gun (let's say a .44 magnum) after the card is used and does not wait for damage resolution step or the pre-damage resolution play of Rotschreck. So with or without Rotschreck, as soon as you play the DBR, then gun is burned. Is that correct? Thanks, Stu [ quoted text not captured ]

pie...@my-deja.com wrote: > > No. The grenade is not burned until strike resolution, which doesn't > > occur after Rotschreck is played in your example. > > LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. > > On a similar note, a Dragon's Breath Rounds burns the gun (let's say > a .44 magnum) after the card is used and does not wait for damage > resolution step or the pre-damage resolution play of Rotschreck. > > So with or without Rotschreck, as soon as you play the DBR, then gun is > burned. Is that correct? No. DBR doesn't burn the gun until the strike resolves (otherwise, the strike wouldn't resolve - similar to "dstroy weapon with first strike"). -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html [ quoted text not captured ]