Questions

Had a few odd questions pop up that I could not answer for people satisfactorly. Call of the Hungry dead. Minion. Does the -1 intercept carry over to subsequent block attempts by other minions? I ruled that it does. Change of Target Does the card played for the action get discarded or returned to the hand? I think that the card is discarded. Compel the Spirit. When compeling a Shambling Horde do you have to burn another ally ect to return the SH to play? Bonecraft At Superior -2 strenth Can you have negative strength? We had a minion with this card on them who struck for zero, then played Lucky blow for 1 damage. Is this correct? Raille

>Call of the Hungry dead. >Minion. >Does the -1 intercept carry over to subsequent block attempts by other >minions? >I ruled that it does. No. Only that one particular blocking minion gets the -1 intercept. Other minions who block are not affected by that Call of the Hungry Dead. >Change of Target >Does the card played for the action get discarded or returned to the >hand? >I think that the card is discarded. Discarded. Without any explicit text to return the card to your hand, it is discarded. >Compel the Spirit. >When compeling a Shambling Horde do you have to burn another ally ect to >return the SH to play? > Yes you do have to remove another ally etc to return the SH to play. When Compelled, it is still "entering play." Also, see similar ruling on War Ghoul: If you have no other allies and no retainers in play when War Ghoul is recruited, then you burn War Ghoul to satisfy card text. [RTR 19961113] >Bonecraft >At Superior -2 strenth >Can you have negative strength? >We had a minion with this card on them who struck for zero, then played >Lucky blow for 1 damage. >Is this correct? You can have negative strength. You can't do less than 0 damage, but this is important for things that give + strength damage. Thus a typical minion with a Bonecraft (1 - 2 = -1 strength) who strikes with an inferior Undead Strength or a Lucky Blow still does 0 damage. Halcyan 2

In message <3B81B953...@mich.com>, Raille <rai...@mich.com> writes >Compel the Spirit. >When compeling a Shambling Horde do you have to burn another ally ect to >return the SH to play? You have to remove one in your ash-heap from the game. (Card text.) "Burn" is to enter the ash-heap. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Close your eyes so you don't feel them EBD690ECD7A1F They don't need to see you cry B457CA213D7E6 I can't promise I will heal you, but if you want to I will try 68C3695D623D5D

Halcyan 2 wrote: > > >Call of the Hungry dead. > >Minion. > >Does the -1 intercept carry over to subsequent block attempts by other > >minions? > >I ruled that it does. > > No. Only that one particular blocking minion gets the -1 intercept. Other > minions who block are not affected by that Call of the Hungry Dead. Correct. (Otherwise it would just say "+1 stealth" and be done with it.) > >Change of Target > >Does the card played for the action get discarded or returned to the > >hand? > >I think that the card is discarded. > > Discarded. Without any explicit text to return the card to your hand, it is > discarded. Correct. > >Compel the Spirit. > >When compeling a Shambling Horde do you have to burn another ally ect to > >return the SH to play? > > > > Yes you do have to remove another ally etc to return the SH to play. When > Compelled, it is still "entering play." Correct. > >Bonecraft > >At Superior -2 strenth > >Can you have negative strength? > >We had a minion with this card on them who struck for zero, then played > >Lucky blow for 1 damage. > >Is this correct? > > You can have negative strength. You can't do less than 0 damage, but this is > important for things that give + strength damage. Thus a typical minion with a > Bonecraft (1 - 2 = -1 strength) who strikes with an inferior Undead Strength or > a Lucky Blow still does 0 damage. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> Also, see similar ruling on War Ghoul: > > If you have no other allies and no retainers in play when War Ghoul is > recruited, then you burn War Ghoul to satisfy card text. [RTR 19961113] Hmm is WG considered to be recruited when he's compelled?

[ quoted text not captured ] No. Compel uses the 'move' phrasing. Hence the additional verbage on the card regarding requirements, disciplines, etc. However, Compel (superior) *does* put the WG into play. So the "enters play" effect on the War Ghoul must be handled. If the compelled WG is the only retainer/ally you have in play, then he is burned. [ quoted text not captured ]