rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Merged Vampire with title and Anarch status (LSJ)

9 messages from 5 participants · 08 June 2010 – 09 June 2010
original thread on Google Groups

Blooded Sand

Lucita base goes anarch. She merges. Is she anarch with a disabled title, or she is the arch bishop of aragon? Lucita Lasombra Capacity: 8 Group: 2 Advanced, Sabbat: Once each action Lucita performs, she may burn 2 blood to cancel a reaction card played by a vampire with capacity less than 6 as it is played (no cost is paid). [MERGED] Archbishop of Aragon. Lasombra Capacity: 8 Group: 2 Independent: Sabbat vampires younger than Lucita get -1 intercept when attempting to block Lucita.

floppyzedolfin

On Jun 8, 10:04 am, Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lucita base goes anarch. She merges. > Is she anarch with a disabled title, or she is the arch bishop of > aragon? Advanced text has precedence (Rulebook 1.5.6). She's Sabbat, with the Archbishop of Aragon title. [ quoted text not captured ]

Blooded Sand

[ quoted text not captured ] True, but am wondering about things like Clan Impersonation. Does the effect from Anarch Convert go away, or is it akin to CI if the vampire changes sect? Anarch Convert Caitiff Capacity: 1 Group: ANY Independent. Anarch: When the convert enters play, you may remove him from the game to make a non-titled vampire you control anarch and either gain 1 pool or draw a card from your crypt.

floppyzedolfin

On Jun 8, 1:27 pm, Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 8, 10:34 am, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 8, 10:04 am, Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Lucita base goes anarch. She merges. > > > Is she anarch with a disabled title, or she is the arch bishop of > > > aragon? > > > Advanced text has precedence (Rulebook 1.5.6). > > She's Sabbat, with the Archbishop of Aragon title. > > > > Lucita > > > Lasombra > > > Capacity: 8 > > > Group: 2 > > > Advanced, Sabbat: Once each action Lucita performs, she may burn 2 > > > blood to cancel a reaction card played by a vampire with capacity less > > > than 6 as it is played (no cost is paid). > > > [MERGED] Archbishop of Aragon. > > > > Lasombra > > > Capacity: 8 > > > Group: 2 > > > Independent: Sabbat vampires younger than Lucita get -1 intercept when > > > attempting to block Lucita. > > True, but am wondering about things like Clan Impersonation. When the vampire is merged, advanced's cardtext (regarding sect, clan, title, ...) has precedence. If this makes him/her change clan, then Clan Impersonation is burned. (Rulebook 1.5.6) > Does the > effect from Anarch Convert go away, or is it akin to CI if the vampire > changes sect? The Anarch status from Anarch Convert goes away if the Advanced copy isn't Anarch: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/bbfb23fef790e45a And so would behave the Clan Impersonation card ( = doesn't burn if on the advanced version, burns if on the base and if the chosen clan isn't the advanced's clan) [ quoted text not captured ]

floppyzedolfin

On Jun 8, 1:51 pm, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 8, 1:27 pm, Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > True, but am wondering about things like Clan Impersonation. > > When the vampire is merged, advanced's cardtext (regarding sect, clan, > title, ...) has precedence. If this makes him/her change clan, then > Clan Impersonation is burned. (Rulebook 1.5.6) Oh, I've probably been over this one a bit too fast. CI doesn't burn, but I think its effect is moot: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/7ce899ef663dc3db

Haze

[ quoted text not captured ] section 10.5 of the rulebook does state vampires lose the anarch trait if they change sects.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] > but I think its effect is moot:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/7ce8... Correct.

Juggernaut1981

[ quoted text not captured ] Also, if they do NOT change sect (e.g. The Base Anarch merges to an Independent Vampire) they should still retain any sect-related qualities (e.g. Black Hand, Seraph, Anarch, Baron, etc) right?

floppyzedolfin

On 9 juin, 00:23, Juggernaut1981 <brasscompo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Also, if they do NOT change sect (e.g. The Base Anarch merges to an > Independent Vampire) they should still retain any sect-related > qualities (e.g. Black Hand, Seraph, Anarch, Baron, etc) right? Black Hand and Seraph are not sect-related. Rulebook 1.5.6 only deals with conflicts of clan / sect / title / capacity / .. If both copies have compatible text, then the merged version keeps those compatible texts (and applies 1.5.6 for incompatibilities) If base is anarch and advanced is independented, merged would be anarch indeed.