LSJ:Soul Gem Mind Rape

I was thinking recently about a nasty combo. Get Inner Circle Member out and put a Soul Gem and a skill card on him. The next thing you do is Mind Rape some younger vampire. On your next turn you play a Minion Tap on Etrius and s Fortitude skill card on the MInd Raped vampire then use the Heidleburg Castle to transfer the Soul Gem to the Mind Raped vampire and transfer all the blood from that vampire to Etrius. The Mind Raped vampire must hunt. You then play Force of Will on the Mind Raped Vampire. This burns the Mind Raped Vampire. Which crypt does the Soul Gem activate the vampire from? Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr. XZealot Archon of the Swamp

XZealot wrote: > > I was thinking recently about a nasty combo. Get Inner Circle Member > out and put a Soul Gem and a skill card on him. The next thing you do > is Mind Rape some younger vampire. On your next turn you play a > Minion Tap on Etrius and s Fortitude skill card on the MInd Raped If you have two master phase actions. > vampire then use the Heidleburg Castle to transfer the Soul Gem to the > Mind Raped vampire and transfer all the blood from that vampire to > Etrius. The Mind Raped vampire must hunt. You then play Force of > Will on the Mind Raped Vampire. This burns the Mind Raped Vampire. Assuming his hunt didn't get blocked (typically resulting in his torporization). Then I suppose Etrius could rescue him, though. > Which crypt does the Soul Gem activate the vampire from? Yours. "You" on card text always refers to the controller of the card. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ wrote: > XZealot wrote: > > Etrius. The Mind Raped vampire must hunt. You then play Force of > > Will on the Mind Raped Vampire. This burns the Mind Raped Vampire. > > Assuming his hunt didn't get blocked (typically resulting in his > torporization). Then I suppose Etrius could rescue him, though. Err - diablerize him, that is. Rescuing him won't burn him. :-) [ quoted text not captured ]

x_ze...@bellsouth.net (XZealot) wrote in message news:<97eaf33b.01101...@posting.google.com>... > I was thinking recently about a nasty combo. Get Inner Circle Member > out and put a Soul Gem and a skill card on him. The next thing you do > is Mind Rape some younger vampire. On your next turn you play a > Minion Tap on Etrius and s Fortitude skill card on the MInd Raped > vampire then use the Heidleburg Castle to transfer the Soul Gem to the > Mind Raped vampire and transfer all the blood from that vampire to > Etrius. The Mind Raped vampire must hunt. You then play Force of > Will on the Mind Raped Vampire. This burns the Mind Raped Vampire. > Which crypt does the Soul Gem activate the vampire from? > How about minion tap the stolen vampire (or choose one with 1 blood), and have him take the Soul Gem form Etrius, using Daring the Dawn? I'm curious as to why you need Etrius to make it work though. Just because he'll be bigger than anything he's trying to take? The problem with the Mind Rape/Soul Gem combo is that in order to get Mind Rape off, you need a vampire that is bigger than the vampire you're trying to take. In order for the Soul Gem to help you out, you have to have a vampire on the top of your crypt that is smaller than the vampire you stole. I assume you can see the problem here. That said, it's still a nasty combo when you get it off, but you can't really count on it without a bit more trickery than that...

Chris Berger wrote: > I'm curious as to why you need Etrius to make it work though. Just > because he'll be bigger than anything he's trying to take? The > problem with the Mind Rape/Soul Gem combo is that in order to get Mind > Rape off, you need a vampire that is bigger than the vampire you're > trying to take. In order for the Soul Gem to help you out, you have > to have a vampire on the top of your crypt that is smaller than the > vampire you stole. I assume you can see the problem here. > > That said, it's still a nasty combo when you get it off, but you can't > really count on it without a bit more trickery than that... I guess you could try to make sure that you have Grendel- The Worm Eaten ready (Reqruiting Party to make sure he comes into your uncontrolled region quick in order to be influenced). At least you'll know beforehand if the combo will work or not. Sten During

Sten During <ya...@netg.se> wrote in message news:<3BCB7412...@netg.se>... > Chris Berger wrote: > > That said, it's still a nasty combo when you get it off, but you can't > > really count on it without a bit more trickery than that... > > I guess you could try to make sure that you have Grendel- The Worm > Eaten ready (Reqruiting Party to make sure he comes into your > uncontrolled region quick in order to be influenced). At least you'll > know beforehand if the combo will work or not. > If you're going to bother using Recruitment, why bother with Grendel? Just play with a weenie crypt, and Recruit the one big guy. If I were making the deck, I'd probably go with a full weenie crypt, half Settites, half Tremere. I'd use Temptation instead of Mind Rape, and use Seeds of Corruption to empty the vamps, with a few Cryptic Missions for strategic placement. Throw in a whole bunch of Fortitude Skill cards, and a few Thaum and Ser skill cards (dual use... for your own vamps *and* to beef up your prey's weenies), some Soul Gems and some Daring the Dawns. You could possibly play it with no combat, no bleed, no vote, and no defense. I don't know if it'd be possible to actually make it a good deck, but it could be fun to try. Unfortunately, it's probably still a little slower than straight out corruption. Free States Rant wouldn't hurt either, although you couldn't really call it for more than 2... still would be at least as good as the Cryptics. Hell, I might actually make this monstrosity some time soon. Would be scary if 3 or 4 or 5 Temptations were all ready at the same time and you could just chain the Soul Gem from vamp to vamp, Daring the Dawn everytime. Mwahahahaha.