Reprint/new sets wishlist

I suggest LSJ reprint the following cards in the next set: Charisma Jake Washington Twisted Forest Political Hunting Ground Femur of Toomler Corporate Hunting Ground Mind Rape Elemental Stoicism Martyr´s Resilience Relentless Pursuit Iron Heart Adaptation Beast Meld Wolf Claws Madmans Quill Shadow Twin Blanket of Night Shroud of Absence Arms of Abyss Eyes of the Night Entombment Mark V I also would like to see a 11 cap Lasombra in that set (maybe Montano, but he is Camarilla or?) and starters for Ventrue Antitribu and Lasombra. And in the set after that I would like to see more Independent vamps, Siegfried and Necross of Vancouver and maybe some Inconnu (Cret, Guilliame, Vlad Tepes, Mahatma, Rebekah etc). Praxis Seizure Glasgow, Stockholm, Paris, Athens, Berlin and Cairo should also be reprinted soon I think. He might also consider a Garou-cryptcard-set - more balanced than the Imbued though. Anyone else got some wishes?

as...@hotmail.com wrote: > I suggest LSJ reprint the following cards in the next set: [...] > Anyone else got some wishes? Better send them to the time fairy. SoC's already at the printer.

[ quoted text not captured ] Assuming the same printers are being used, do we have any assurance as to an increase in quality control, specifically card cut and sorting issues? I know I'm only a single person, but my time of pre-purchasing 5 boxes of a premium release (or 2-3 of a 150 count release) are gone after the issues I had with Sabbat 3rd. And that makes me sad. Morgan Vening :(

[ quoted text not captured ] I think I missed something somewhere. What's SoC stand for? -- salem http://users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/vtes/ (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)

> > I think I missed something somewhere. What's SoC stand for? Sword of Caine. I suspect it's a Black Hand expansion. Eric Gangrel ancilla

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:fhL5h.9037$9v5...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > as...@hotmail.com wrote: >> I suggest LSJ reprint the following cards in the next set: > > [...] > >> Anyone else got some wishes? *cough* *cough* Heart of Nizchetus. *cough* LOTS of them! > Better send them to the time fairy. SoC's already at the printer. That's interesting. I didn't gather SoC was going to have any reprints at all. I thought it was a "mini-expansion" coming out in February. Or do I have my future sets all mixed up? Fred

Grey Wanderer wrote: >> >> I think I missed something somewhere. What's SoC stand for? > > Sword of Caine. I suspect it's a Black Hand expansion. ok, that sounds vaguely familiar (combined with Fred's comment about mini-expansions).... thanks! [ quoted text not captured ]

Morgan Vening wrote: > Assuming the same printers are being used, do we have any assurance as > to an increase in quality control, specifically card cut and sorting > issues? > > I know I'm only a single person, but my time of pre-purchasing 5 boxes > of a premium release (or 2-3 of a 150 count release) are gone after > the issues I had with Sabbat 3rd. And that makes me sad. > > Morgan Vening > :( I am with this also. Why fork out the same cost for lower quality, and bad sorting. When I buy in bulk, I expect to get the vast majority of the set. Not just a lot of half a set. Frogbear *Beside myself with Grief*

LSJ napsal: [ quoted text not captured ] If there's no Shroud of Absence, I am sending Luftwaffe above your HQ!

On Nov 12, 10:44 pm, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote: > "LSJ" <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote in messagenews:fhL5h.9037$9v5...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > Anyone else got some wishes? > *cough* *cough* Heart of Nizchetus. *cough* LOTS of them! > > > Better send them to the time fairy. > SoC's already at the printer.That's interesting. I didn't gather SoC was going to have any > reprints at all. I thought it was a "mini-expansion" coming out > in February. Or do I have my future sets all mixed up? > If there are any reprints in SoC, it is too late to change them, because it's at the printer. If there are no reprints in SoC, it is too late to add them, because it's at the printer. In short, we can't change the next set, because it's at the printer. -- - Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

On Nov 12, 3:03 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > I suggest LSJ reprint the following cards in the next set: > Charisma > Jake Washington > Twisted Forest* > Political Hunting Ground* > Femur of Toomler* > Corporate Hunting Ground* > Mind Rape > Elemental Stoicism* > Martyr´s Resilience* > Relentless Pursuit* > Iron Heart* > Adaptation* I assume you mean Adaptability. Be careful what you wish for. If it gets reprinted, its text will be changed to fit all the other cards, i.e. "This vampire treats aggravated damage as normal". > Beast Meld > Wolf Claws > Madmans Quill > Shadow Twin > Blanket of Night > Shroud of Absence > Arms of Abyss > Eyes of the Night > Entombment > Mark V* > > I also would like to see a 11 cap Lasombra in that set (maybe Montano, > but he is Camarilla or?) and starters for Ventrue Antitribu and > Lasombra. > > Anyone else got some wishes? If reprinted, I'd prefer to see the starred cards above as starter-only. [ quoted text not captured ]

<gpett...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1163425000....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 12, 10:44 pm, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote: >> "LSJ" <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote in >> messagenews:fhL5h.9037$9v5...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >> > as...@hotmail.com wrote: >> > > Anyone else got some wishes? >> >> *cough* *cough* Heart of Nizchetus. *cough* LOTS of them! >> >> > Better send them to the time fairy. >> >> SoC's already at the printer.That's interesting. I didn't gather >> SoC was going to have any reprints at all. I thought it was a >> "mini-expansion" coming out in February. Or do I have my future >> sets all mixed up? > > If there are any reprints in SoC, it is too late to change them, > because it's at the printer. If there are no reprints in SoC, it is too > late to add them, because it's at the printer. In short, we can't > change the next set, because it's at the printer. Yea, of course, I got that when LSJ said it. My confusion was that his response seemed to suggest that there _could_ have been reprints (or different reprints, whatever) in Sword of Caine if the request had been made earlier and assuming the powers that be had looked kindly upon it. Since I had thought SoC was announced as a mini- expansion, one wouldn't expect there to be reprints of any kind. Therefore, it shouldn't matter when the thing went to the printer. Notice, the original poster's wish list did not specify which expansion he was talking about. Well he did say, "the next set". By inference, I would make the leap that we were obviously talking about, "the next set that has reprints". Fred

[ quoted text not captured ] His list focused on the Sabbat-related cards along with some generic card, fretting over Montano's Camarillaness as a possible obstacle to his inclusion, and he wished for !Ven and Las starters, indicating that he had SoC in mind. He went on to give the related-to-things-that-aren't-Sabbat list as for "the set after that", lending further weight to the idea that he thinks "next set" is for Sabbat, implying the Sword of Caine expansion.

On Nov 13, 9:23 am, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote: > <gpettig...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1163425000....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Nov 12, 10:44 pm, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote: > >> "LSJ" <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote in > >> messagenews:fhL5h.9037$9v5...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > >> > a...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> > > Anyone else got some wishes? > > >> *cough* *cough* Heart of Nizchetus. *cough* LOTS of them! > > >> > Better send them to the time fairy. > > >> SoC's already at the printer.That's interesting. I didn't gather > >> SoC was going to have any reprints at all. I thought it was a > >> "mini-expansion" coming out in February. Or do I have my future > >> sets all mixed up? > > > If there are any reprints in SoC, it is too late to change them, > > because it's at the printer. If there are no reprints in SoC, it is too > > late to add them, because it's at the printer. In short, we can't > > change the next set, because it's at the printer.Yea, of course, I got that when LSJ said it. My confusion was that > his response seemed to suggest that there _could_ have been reprints > (or different reprints, whatever) in Sword of Caine if the request > had been made earlier and assuming the powers that be had looked > kindly upon it. Since I had thought SoC was announced as a mini- > expansion, one wouldn't expect there to be reprints of any kind. > Therefore, it shouldn't matter when the thing went to the printer. Even if SoC boosters have only 60 cards in them, there's really nothing stopping WW from printing Lasombra, !Nos, !Tor, and !Ventrue starters to take care of the other Sabbat Clans in need of Group 4 starter decks. [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:sF%5h.1362$yE6...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > His list focused on the Sabbat-related cards along with some generic card, > fretting over Montano's Camarillaness as a possible obstacle to his > inclusion, and he wished for !Ven and Las starters, indicating that he had > SoC in mind. > > He went on to give the related-to-things-that-aren't-Sabbat list as for > "the set after that", lending further weight to the idea that he thinks > "next set" is for Sabbat, implying the Sword of Caine expansion. Perhaps more to the point, are you just teasing us by responding to this thread at all (e.g. suggesting contacting the time fairy)? Or is it possible that reprint wish lists would actually influence the powers who decide on reprints, if submitted far enough in advance? :-) Josh wishes that the time fairy could go back and cause the damned never to have been reprinted (clap your hands if you believe!)

Joshua Duffin wrote: > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > news:sF%5h.1362$yE6...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > >> His list focused on the Sabbat-related cards along with some generic card, >> fretting over Montano's Camarillaness as a possible obstacle to his >> inclusion, and he wished for !Ven and Las starters, indicating that he had >> SoC in mind. >> >> He went on to give the related-to-things-that-aren't-Sabbat list as for >> "the set after that", lending further weight to the idea that he thinks >> "next set" is for Sabbat, implying the Sword of Caine expansion. > > Perhaps more to the point, are you just teasing us by responding to this > thread at all (e.g. suggesting contacting the time fairy)? Or is it > possible that reprint wish lists would actually influence the powers who > decide on reprints, if submitted far enough in advance? :-) Everything I read has the potential to influence my decisions, even if only subconsciously (including influencing the opposite outcome from the desired one, depending on the wording of it). I suspect this is true of everyone, in fact.

gpett...@gmail.com skrev: > On Nov 12, 3:03 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Adaptation* > > I assume you mean Adaptability. Be careful what you wish for. If it > gets reprinted, its text will be changed to fit all the other cards, > i.e. "This vampire treats aggravated damage as normal". Yes of course. I often confuse cards with movies.

Frederick Scott skrev: > Notice, the original poster's wish list did not specify which expansion > he was talking about. Well he did say, "the next set". By > inference, I would make the leap that we were obviously talking about, > "the next set that has reprints". As much as I hate giving LSJ right about something :), he actually was this time. I referred to the Sword of Caine-set, which I assumed was about the Sabbat. Too bad I was late with my list.

Joshua Duffin wrote: > > wishes that the time fairy could go back and cause the damned never to have > been reprinted > (clap your hands if you believe!) Clap clap. Wait, I would modify that to "never have been *printed*". best - chris

Joshua Duffin wrote: > > wishes that the time fairy could go back and cause the damned never to have > been reprinted > (clap your hands if you believe!) Clap clap. Wait, I would modify that to "never have been *printed*". Cool art though. best - chris

In message <4rrlb9F...@mid.individual.net>, Joshua Duffin <joshdu...@SPAM.gmail.com> writes: >Perhaps more to the point, are you just teasing us by responding to this >thread at all (e.g. suggesting contacting the time fairy)? Or is it >possible that reprint wish lists would actually influence the powers who >decide on reprints, if submitted far enough in advance? :-) In as much as a well-considered list of products that people want to buy would influence a company that wants to make a profit, I can't see that it hurts. Dreams, War Ghoul, Direct Intervention, Freak Drive et al have been reprinted a lot in starters because LSJ knows people want them, so far as I can tell. Being able to look up a player-compiled list of wanted cards (for reprinting) in order to sell starters and/or boosters seems like something that any rational company would, at least, think about. Of course, it might not gel with their current plans. Like, if the next few sets are planned around the Sabbat/Black Hand, Anarchs, Indies and the Laibon[0], requests to reprint Parity Shift, Praxis Seizures and Second Tradition won't likely be met. [0] Plucked out of thin air, save for the Sabbat/Black Hand reference to Sword of Caine. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

In message <1163361810.7...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, as...@hotmail.com writes: >Charisma >Jake Washington These two, I've wanted to see reprinted for a while. <snip - rest of list> >Mark V This one surprises me, though. I mean, I know it's not been printed since it was first done. It's just I don't see that it's actually all that great. I can think of cards I'd rather see reprinted before it, anyway. [ quoted text not captured ]

So can someone explain whether the quality control issue has been adressed re: SoC? Cos I, for one, am at the point where if it is of the same quality as the previous sets that i will rather sell or give newbies cards out of my own collection. Rather than paying large amounts of forex to get decidedly sub standard quality cards, I would advise them to buy from potomac or lasmobra and get the older sets as at least they will get playable cards. and full sets. and cards that don't feel like they got ripped off the bottom of a cereal box.

> Anyone else got some wishes? Unmasking, we NEED to have this card fixed.

Huruem wrote: > > Anyone else got some wishes? > > Unmasking, we NEED to have this card fixed. By reprinting it in all four imbued starters in the next expansion. witness1 -believe the lie

On Nov 15, 4:31 pm, "Huruem" <Huruem_cate...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Anyone else got some wishes?Unmasking, we NEED to have this card fixed. in a starter. And Dragonbound. And according to trade.mahasamatman.com's most wanted list: Heart of Nizchetus Black Forest Base (a lot of new 3E, actually, but probably an artifact of its newness) Heart of the City Abbot Shroud of Absence Hungry Coyote, The Dual Form and all the Rare vampires. [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] except for the 11caps who blow monkey chunks like Augustus and Suhtek..... Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr XZealot Archon of the Swamp

On Nov 15, 11:55 pm, "XZealot" <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: > gpettig...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Nov 15, 4:31 pm, "Huruem" <Huruem_cate...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Anyone else got some wishes?Unmasking, we NEED to have this card fixed. > > > in a starter. And Dragonbound. And according to > > trade.mahasamatman.com's most wanted list: > > > Heart of Nizchetus > > Black Forest Base (a lot of new 3E, actually, but probably an artifact > > of its newness) > > Heart of the City > > Abbot > > Shroud of Absence > > Hungry Coyote, The > > Dual Form > > > and all the Rare vampires.except for the 11caps who blow monkey chunks like Augustus and > Suhtek..... > > Comments Welcome, > Norman S. Brown, Jr > XZealot > Archon of the Swamp- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - but 3 copies of ole sluggy!!!

On Nov 15, 4:55 pm, "XZealot" <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: > > and all the Rare vampires. > except for the 11caps who blow monkey chunks like Augustus and > Suhtek..... No, they should be in the 15th Anniversary Tins like everybody else from the rest of Group 2. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Nov 16, 3:13 pm, "gpettig...@gmail.com" <gpettig...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 15, 4:55 pm, "XZealot" <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: > > > > and all the Rare vampires. > > except for the 11caps who blow monkey chunks like Augustus and > > Suhtek.....No, they should be in the 15th Anniversary Tins like everybody else > from the rest of Group 2. > > -- > - Gregory Stuart Pettigrew Okay, put the monkey chunkers in the tins, and the cool ones in the next few sets. I'm happy with that. Anyone else?

On Nov 16, 1:00 pm, "Blooded Sand" <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, put the monkey chunkers in the tins, and the cool ones in the next few sets. I'm happy with that. Anyone else? Camarilla Vitae Slave Dia de los Muertos Legacy of Pander Path of Bone Path of Paradox Wave of Insanity [ quoted text not captured ]

On Nov 16, 8:22 pm, "gpettig...@gmail.com" <gpettig...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 16, 1:00 pm, "Blooded Sand" <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Okay, put the monkey chunkers in the tins, and the cool ones in the next few sets. I'm happy with that. Anyone else?Camarilla Vitae Slave > Dia de los Muertos > Legacy of Pander > Path of Bone > Path of Paradox > Wave of Insanity > > -- > - Gregory Stuart Pettigrew Decapitate Week of Nightmares Tupdog LOL!

as...@hotmail.com wrote: > I suggest LSJ reprint the following cards in the next set: ............ > Anyone else got some wishes? An errata on Becoming of Ennoia from: Gehenna. Do not replace until your next discard phase. Requires at least two other Gehenna cards controlled by other Methuselahs in play. During each Methuselah`s untap phase, he or she chooses a ready vampire he or she controls. The chosen vampire takes 1 unpreventable damage. Playing Earth Meld costs 2 additional blood. to: Gehenna. Do not replace until your next discard phase. Requires at least two other Gehenna cards in play. During each Methuselah`s untap phase, he or she chooses a ready vampire he or she controls. The chosen vampire takes 1 unpreventable damage. Playing Earth Meld costs 2 additional blood.

"Hyllan" <caroli...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1163795879.8...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Totally reasonable as the "controlled by other Methuselahs" clause on the Gehenna cards requirement is totally insane unless Gehenna event cards became a hell of a lot more ubiquitous than they are now. Still, it probably fails due to the wallpaper-is-seldom-worth-errata-to- upgrade theory. There'd really need to be a compelling reason to salvage this card and based on its effect (even modified), I just don't see one. Fred

On Nov 17, 11:20 pm, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote: > "Hyllan" <caroline_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1163795879.8...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > a...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> I suggest LSJ reprint the following cards in the next set: > > ............ > >> Anyone else got some wishes? > > > An errata on Becoming of Ennoia from: > > > Gehenna. Do not replace until your next discard phase. Requires at > > least two other Gehenna cards controlled by other Methuselahs in play. > > During each Methuselah`s untap phase, he or she chooses a ready vampire > > he or she controls. The chosen vampire takes 1 unpreventable damage. > > Playing Earth Meld costs 2 additional blood. > > > to: > > > Gehenna. Do not replace until your next discard phase. Requires at > > least two other Gehenna cards in play. During each Methuselah`s untap > > phase, he or she chooses a ready vampire he or she controls. The chosen > > vampire takes 1 unpreventable damage. Playing Earth Meld costs 2 > > additional blood.Totally reasonable as the "controlled by other Methuselahs" clause on > the Gehenna cards requirement is totally insane unless Gehenna event > cards became a hell of a lot more ubiquitous than they are now. > > Still, it probably fails due to the wallpaper-is-seldom-worth-errata-to- > upgrade theory. There'd really need to be a compelling reason to salvage > this card and based on its effect (even modified), I just don't see one. > > Fred- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Actually, if this card did not have the "other methuselah" clause, i would defintely play it. have this deep and abiding dislike of earthmeld. and you can combine the unpreventable damage bit with some other similar effects to make some really nasty combos. things like leopold, familiar, etc

Huruem wrote: > > Anyone else got some wishes? > > Unmasking, we NEED to have this card fixed. Fixed or reprinted? Reprinted makes more sense to me since i think this card doesn't need any change. The "Heart of Niz..." case is pretty interesting since it's effect it's not a big deal itself BUT judging by the singles and auction prices people liked a lot the new ability to easily exchange cards between hand and library...

"Blooded Sand" <sand...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1163803444.5...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 17, 11:20 pm, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote: >> "Hyllan" <caroline_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in >> messagenews:1163795879.8...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > a...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> I suggest LSJ reprint the following cards in the next set: >> > ............ >> >> Anyone else got some wishes? >> >> > An errata on Becoming of Ennoia... ... >> Still, it probably fails due to the wallpaper-is-seldom-worth-errata-to- >> upgrade theory. There'd really need to be a compelling reason to salvage >> this card and based on its effect (even modified), I just don't see one. > > Actually, if this card did not have the "other methuselah" clause, i > would defintely play it. have this deep and abiding dislike of > earthmeld. and you can combine the unpreventable damage bit with some > other similar effects to make some really nasty combos. things like > leopold, familiar, etc Sure. Lots of wallpaper would be playable if you just gave it errata to upgrade it. But I hardly think these two effects are so unique or interesting that it's worth creating a bunch more cards that don't play the way it says on the card just to bring them into the game. Earthmeld can be countered by any S:CE-killer and you get more coverage anyway. And there are certainly other things to combo with Society of Leopold. It's not worth bothering to errata such thing. Fred

> Sure. Lots of wallpaper would be playable if you just gave it errata to > upgrade it. But I hardly think these two effects are so unique or > interesting that it's worth creating a bunch more cards that don't play > the way it says on the card just to bring them into the game. Earthmeld > can be countered by any S:CE-killer and you get more coverage anyway. And > there are certainly other things to combo with Society of Leopold. It's > not worth bothering to errata such thing. I was thinking more about Masochism - what other way do you have to get a counter on it every turn without requiring a clan, or a discipline?

"I. M. Bur" <bura...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1163951211....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Erm...seems like kind of a narrow interest to rewrite Becoming of Annoyed just so you can play it as the third Gehenna card so your vampires with Masochism can get a free Rush counter every turn. Typically, the thinking is that it's better to agitate for a different card to do that in preference to giving errata to wallpaper. But, OK... Fred

On Nov 17, 7:07 pm, "Luis Duarte - Powerbase:Lisbon" <luis.pal...@netcabo.pt> wrote: > Huruem wrote: > > Unmasking, we NEED to have this card fixed. > Fixed or reprinted? > > Reprinted makes more sense to me since i think this card doesn't need > any change. > I assumed he meant reprinted in a starter, i.e. having "Fixed" rarity. I know that's what I want. [ quoted text not captured ]