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Form of Mist

6 messages from 6 participants · 02 June 1995 – 05 June 1995
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Son Nguyen-Dang

Can anyone tell me if the +1 stealth is cumulative on Form of Mist eg. if I play it a second time in the next combat (my prey manages to block again) does my action now continue +2 stealth ? Thanks. -SOn --

massin

well the +1stealth is not cumulutative because it is assumed that if your prey manages to block you again, she can fight with your vampire only if she isn't in mist any more. But if you play another form of mist, then combat end another time and you get +1 stealth (not +2stealth) Raphael aka Clarence Pickmann of Toreador Clan

William S. Westermann

Maybe I'm misinterpreting the card, but it says that the action continues with +1 stealth. I don't see any reason for it not to be cumulative. (Unless that's a DTR or something. :) Look at it like this. Gitane St. Claire bleeds. She gets blocked and uses FoM to end combat and continue her bleed at +1 stealth Her prey incepts her bleed with an intercept. She uses FoM which ends combat and continues her action at +1 stealth. The previous action being blocked was a +1 stealh bleed, and therefore, after playing FoM, should continue at +2 stealth. I can't read the card any other way. Just me. -- ______________________________________________________________________________ W. Scott Westermann west...@cadcam.pms.ford.com Software Engineer Phone : (313) 390-6306 Advanced Vehicle Technologies - Core Fax : (313) 390-5011 Computer Applications E/E Systems Eng. Mail : Village Plaza Ste. 1100 Ford Motor Company 23400 Michigan Avenue Dearborn MI, USA Dearborn, Michigan 48124 ______________________________________________________________________________

L. Scott Johnson

az...@torfree.net (Son Nguyen-Dang) writes: [ quoted text not captured ] Yes, but it's still only good for +1 stealth. (Total stealth +2 from both FoMs). Action: 0 stealth. Action Mods: +X stealth. Combat - FoM: +1 stealth. Combat2 - FoM: +1 stealth. ----- Total stealth now: x+1+1 = X+2 -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu) | These opinions are mine and Graphics Specialist and Jyhad Rulemonger. | are subject to card text.

Mark Amidon

massin <n4086> writes: >Date: 2 Jun 1995 11:07:01 GMT >well the +1stealth is not cumulutative because it is assumed that if your >prey manages to block you again, she can fight with your vampire only >if she isn't in mist any more. >But if you play another form of mist, then combat end another time and you get >+1 stealth (not +2stealth) No, non, nein. The '+' in "+1 stealth" means that you add the value to the stealth already accumulated. Of course, the vampire that blocked you is already at the necessary intercept level, so they need only add one more intercept to get you again (assuming that they can overcome being tapped from combat, of course). The rule states that you lose the stealth or intercept _after_ the action is resolved. Form of Mist continues the action. Give my Gangrels a break, would you please? Mark Amidon, Nosferatu-in-training Friend of Gangrels

Joseph Cochran

In article <3qmrcl$o...@netserver.univ-lille1.fr>, massin <n4086> wrote: >well the +1stealth is not cumulutative because it is assumed that if your >prey manages to block you again, she can fight with your vampire only >if she isn't in mist any more. Form of Mist just grants the extra stealth. It gives no provision for taking that stealth away again, and in general stealth stays until the end of an action, so the stealth is indeed cumulative. It may not be right with your fiction, but that *is* the way it works. | If you've got a hot lead on a new | *--Joe--* | PC game, call the announce line at | js...@vt.edu | ** csi...@discus.ise.vt.edu ** | +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------- "There. That should do nicely. After all, we don't want the locals to see grannies clipped to trash bins by their teeth, do we?" -- Mr. Gone