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No to both.
Nothing in their card text would allow such a thing.
See the contrast with Sacrificial Lamb, which burns a vampire in
torpor and specifically allows movement of equipment by card text.
Sacrificial Lamb [DS, FN, CE]
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 3 blood
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] Burn a vampire in torpor that you control. The acting vampire
gains blood equal to the burned vampire's capacity (ignore excess
blood). You may also transfer equipment from the burned vampire to
this one. This action is not considered diablerie.
[OBF] (D) As above, but burn a vampire in another Methuselah's torpor
region.
Gregory Winter [CE]
Cardtype: Ally
Cost: 2 pool
Unique ghoul with 4 life. 1 strength, 1 bleed.
During your untap phase, Gregory burns 1 life. He can steal a blood
(gaining a life) from a vampire controlled by another Methuselah as a
+1 stealth (D) action. He can burn a vampire in torpor to gain 2 life
as a (D) action.
Amam the Devourer (Bane Mummy) [FN]
Cardtype: Ally
Clan: Follower of Set
Cost: 2 pool
Unique mummy with 3 life. 0 bleed, 2 strength.
Amam may enter combat with any ready minion controlled by another
Methuselah as a (D) action. Amam may burn a vampire in torpor to gain
1 life as a (D) action. This does not constitute diablerie. If a
minion opposing Amam in combat is burned, Amam gains 1 life. If Amam
is burned, shuffle him into his owner's library.
Carpe noctem.
Lasombra
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