Spying mission v Deflections?

Minion bleeds, is not blocked, plays a spying mission instead of bleeding. Same minion later bleeds the same meth, who declines to block. Must the Meth being bled declare reactions if any before the spying mission is burnt for +2 bleed? Or can he deflect the bleed after that? T

"Talonz51" <Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3cd62429.41870879@news [ quoted text not captured ] He can deflect after that -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

[ quoted text not captured ] Before. SM isn't burned except when the bleed is resolved. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ wrote: > Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com wrote: > >>Minion bleeds, is not blocked, plays a spying mission instead of >>bleeding. >> >>Same minion later bleeds the same meth, who declines to block. Must >>the Meth being bled declare reactions if any before the spying mission >>is burnt for +2 bleed? Or can he deflect the bleed after that? >> > > Before. > SM isn't burned except when the bleed is resolved. > > Related question due to 'succesfully bleeds': I'm being bled for one by a vamp with SM in play. I play Telepathic Counter. Has the acting minion succesfully bled me in order to be entitled to burn SM at all? (Ie is it ok to burn SM if bleeding for zero?) Sten During

<snip> > Related question due to 'succesfully bleeds': > > I'm being bled for one by a vamp with SM in play. I play Telepathic > Counter. Has the acting minion succesfully bled me in order to be > entitled to burn SM at all? (Ie is it ok to burn SM if bleeding for > zero?) No. A bleed of zero is unsuccessful (rulebook) > > Sten During >

[ quoted text not captured ] No. He could play Conditioning, though, in response (or prior to) the TC to get the bleed back in the 'successful' range. [ quoted text not captured ]

> > I'm being bled for one by a vamp with SM in play. I play Telepathic > > Counter. Has the acting minion succesfully bled me in order to be > > entitled to burn SM at all? (Ie is it ok to burn SM if bleeding for > > zero?) > Related question. I have Mattias in play and my preditor is playing Settites. Mattias gives Settites -1 bleed while bleeding me. Can they Spying Mission me if I don't block (assuming a bleed of 1)?

[ quoted text not captured ] If you assume a bleed of 1 (successful), yes. If you have a bleed of 0 (the usual when a Setite bleeds Matthias's controller: 1-1=0), zero being unsuccessful as stated in the rules, then no. [ quoted text not captured ]

"Nikolaj Wendt" <niko...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f4d1cd51bccdb9ba256...@mygate.mailgate.org > "Talonz51" <Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3cd62429.41870879@news > > > > > Minion bleeds, is not blocked, plays a spying mission instead of > > bleeding. > > > > Same minion later bleeds the same meth, who declines to block. Must > > the Meth being bled declare reactions if any before the spying mission > > is burnt for +2 bleed? Or can he deflect the bleed after that? > > > > T > He can deflect after that No, he can't...it says on spying mission that you burn it to get the +2 bleed on a succesful bleed...that is after all action mods and reactions are played, and the bleed is more than 0. jim [ quoted text not captured ]