rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Rules question, influence phase ordering

3 messages from 3 participants · 11 January 2007 – 13 January 2007
original thread on Google Groups

Lasu

Can I choose the order in which my uncontrolled vampires become controlled? I mean, if my predator has Sonja Blue and I want to influence out two more copies of her, does my first copy and my predators copy get removed from game before my second copy enters play? //Lasu

Pat

"Lasu" <lasse...@elisanet.fi> wrote in message news:1168515943.0...@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > Can I choose the order in which my uncontrolled vampires become > controlled? I don't believe you can. Per the rulebook, "**at the end** of your influence phase, any vampire in your uncontrolled region with a number of blood counters on him equal to (or more than) his capacity becomes controlled." I believe they're all considered to come out at the same time, just like all your cards are considered to simultaneously untap at the beginning of your untap phase. > I mean, if my predator has Sonja Blue and I want to influence out two > more copies of her, does my first copy and my predators copy get > removed from game before my second copy enters play? I don't think so. I believe all would be removed from the game, after you gain 4 pool for each of the copies you influenced. (Per the ruling here: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/1f2af31f127a0ad5) - Pat P.S. Google groups seems to be on its way back to functionality, although with a bit more of a delay than normal. We're up to messages on Jan 12 at 8:41.

LSJ

Pat wrote: > "Lasu" <lasse...@elisanet.fi> wrote in message > news:1168515943.0...@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... >> Can I choose the order in which my uncontrolled vampires become >> controlled? > > I don't believe you can. Per the rulebook, "**at the end** of your influence > phase, any vampire in your uncontrolled region with a number of blood > counters on him equal to (or more than) his capacity becomes controlled." > > I believe they're all considered to come out at the same time, just like all > your cards are considered to simultaneously untap at the beginning of your > untap phase. They come out in the same window (at the end of the influence phase), but they come out one by one. This also matters for scarce vampires (bring out two from the same clan at the "same time" and the second still costs you 3 pool for the first) and for Jimmy Dunn (bring out two at the same time and the second burns the first). http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/950b919b4ac941c2 >> I mean, if my predator has Sonja Blue and I want to influence out two >> more copies of her, does my first copy and my predators copy get >> removed from game before my second copy enters play? > > I don't think so. I believe all would be removed from the game, after you > gain 4 pool for each of the copies you influenced. (Per the ruling here: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/1f2af31f127a0ad5) It works. The first contests (removing both the first and the one it was contesting) then the second comes into play as normal.