rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Pulled Fangs Q

4 messages from 3 participants · 05 May 1997 – 07 May 1997
original thread on Google Groups

rag...@ugcs.caltech.edu

If one of my vamps uses Drawing out the Beast, and no other damage is dealt during the round, can I use Pulled Fangs on the opposing vampire (assuming that the combat occured at close range)? More generally, I'm not quite sure I understand the way that the timing on these two cards really works. -- Robert Granat Lackey of the Schnitzel Industry

L. Scott Johnson

rag...@ugcs.caltech.edu wrote: > > If one of my vamps uses Drawing out the Beast, and no other damage is > dealt during the round, can I use Pulled Fangs on the opposing vampire > (assuming that the combat occured at close range)? Yes. > More generally, I'm not quite sure I understand the way that the timing > on these two cards really works. They are both end-of-round effects, so can be done in either order. ('Course, Fangs can't be played in the example before DotB deals its damage, so the order isn't so flexible). -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Joshua Duffin

L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) wrote: : rag...@ugcs.caltech.edu wrote: : > : > If one of my vamps uses Drawing out the Beast, and no other damage is : > dealt during the round, can I use Pulled Fangs on the opposing vampire : > (assuming that the combat occured at close range)? : Yes. This sounds awfully sketchy to me. I always thought the rulings on Pulled Fangs were that it only counts damage the vampire itself actually inflicts, ie damage the vampire inflicts through damage-dealing strikes. I know I've seen rulings that it doesn't count, for example, retainers. Was I incorrect in thinking that it also doesn't count, for example, Drawing out the Beast and Carrion Crows? Also, DotB says (on my Jyhad copy) that "opposing vampire suffers 1 damage after each round, which cannot be prevented." To me, the "after" each round indicates that the damage occurs after the round has actually ended, which is too late for a Pulled Fangs to be played in that round, based on only the DotB damage. Josh ..puffin' on the crack rock I borrowed from Peter..

L. Scott Johnson

Joshua Duffin wrote: > > L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) wrote: > : rag...@ugcs.caltech.edu wrote: > : > > : > If one of my vamps uses Drawing out the Beast, and no other damage is > : > dealt during the round, can I use Pulled Fangs on the opposing vampire > : > (assuming that the combat occured at close range)? > > : Yes. > > This sounds awfully sketchy to me. I always thought the rulings on Pulled > Fangs were that it only counts damage the vampire itself actually inflicts, > ie damage the vampire inflicts through damage-dealing strikes. I know I've "damage inflicted by the vampire" and "damage inflicted by strikes" are not the same. The ruling on Pulled Fangs has always been the former. > seen rulings that it doesn't count, for example, retainers. Was I incorrect > in thinking that it also doesn't count, for example, Drawing out the Beast > and Carrion Crows? It would count both of these. > Also, DotB says (on my Jyhad copy) that "opposing vampire suffers 1 damage > after each round, which cannot be prevented." To me, the "after" each round > indicates that the damage occurs after the round has actually ended, which > is too late for a Pulled Fangs to be played in that round, based on only > the DotB damage. It (DotB damage) has been ruled to happen "at the end of the round". [ quoted text not captured ]