[LSJ] Some rules questions

1) Does Alvaro, Scion of Angelica REALLY gain two blood if he is in torpor during a political action? Can you explain this? 2) Can Mariel, Lady Thunder use her ability in torpor? (I guess she can, so I need only "yes" or "no" answer) 3) Political Struggle text states: "If the vampire with this card is burned or sent into torpor..." Does it work when the vampire is burned or torporized by another player? Does it REALLY works when its owner is ousted? Thanks in advance, Ector

Ector wrote: > 1) Does Alvaro, Scion of Angelica REALLY gain two blood if he is in > torpor during a political action? Can you explain this? Yes. Abstain is not giving his vote in favor or against a referendum. When you're in torpor, you cannot giving your vote. Technically, every vamp in torpor abstain. Including Alvaro, triggering his abilities. > 2) Can Mariel, Lady Thunder use her ability in torpor? (I guess she > can, so I need only "yes" or "no" answer) Yes. > 3) Political Struggle text states: "If the vampire with this card is > burned or sent into torpor..." Does it work when the vampire is burned > or torporized by another player? yes. >Does it REALLY works when its owner is > ousted? Yes. All cards controled by an ousted player are burned, including his vamp, triggering the political struggle, before it burns itself. Correction of your question : political seizure does noes triggers if the "owner" of the vamp is ousted, but the "controler" of the vamp (see online rulebook for the difference between controler and owner : for example : political struggle is owned by the meth who have it in his deck, and controled by the controler of the vamp it is put on). > Thanks in advance, > Ector No problem, Bye. Kamel Senni.

<kamel...@yvelines.pref.gouv.fr> wrote in message news:1105006994....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Ector wrote: > > 1) Does Alvaro, Scion of Angelica REALLY gain two blood if he is in > > torpor during a political action? Can you explain this? > Yes. Abstain is not giving his vote in favor or against a referendum. > When you're in torpor, you cannot giving your vote. Technically, every > vamp in torpor abstain. Including Alvaro, triggering his abilities. Correct. Google: "Alvaro torpor author:LSJ" > > 2) Can Mariel, Lady Thunder use her ability in torpor? (I guess she > > can, so I need only "yes" or "no" answer) > Yes. Correct. Google: "Mariel torpor ability author:LSJ" > > 3) Political Struggle text states: "If the vampire with this card is > > burned or sent into torpor..." Does it work when the vampire is > burned > > or torporized by another player? > yes. Correct. > >Does it REALLY works when its owner is > > ousted? > Yes. All cards controled by an ousted player are burned, including his > vamp, triggering the political struggle, before it burns itself. > Correction of your question : political seizure does noes triggers if > the "owner" of the vamp is ousted, but the "controler" of the vamp (see > online rulebook for the difference between controler and owner : for > example : political struggle is owned by the meth who have it in his > deck, and controled by the controler of the vamp it is put on). Correct. Google: "political struggle ousted author:LSJ" -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu