EQ: Antwerp

I don't have the complete results yet (steve, can you send them to me or post them yourself?) but hey, I'm qualified! There were 18 contestants and therefore 9 places to Paris to be earned. I managed to get 3VP in the last game of the preliminary rounds and that brought my total on 3 vp (worst tourney ever :-[ ). That gave me a tied 8th place. Greetz to the 4 guys who came all the way from Paris made us speak 'Frenglish' (luckily we Belgians are all polyglots) and went back homewith almost no VP. I think only Philippe Lang got 1 or two. But as I said complete results will follow. In the final: Stefan: Ventrue weenie vote deck with a lot of 1st Traditions Jo: Malk S&B (They're back!!) Sven: Gangrel intercept and Smiling Jack Greg.: !Malk lock deck Steven: Gangrel Bleeder I don't know how the VP's were distributed, but I do know that Stefan did win.

> In the final: > > Stefan: Ventrue weenie vote deck with a lot of 1st Traditions > Jo: Malk S&B (They're back!!) > Sven: Gangrel intercept and Smiling Jack > Greg.: !Malk lock deck > Steven: Gangrel Bleeder Let Stefan tell it himself: "I only had three 1st traditions in my deck actually and I was lucky to get my predator killed because he had deadlocked all my vampires with hauntings,lunatic eruptions,brainwash and pentex subversion so I had to kill him with my deflections deflecting the bleeds directly back at him. After he was dead I immediately had possesion of my 5 vamps and switched places with the malkav bleed who was at 4 pool and voted him and the gangrel bleed deck to death. I never thought I was going to win until my predator ran out of telepatic misdirections and with a malkav bleed behind him he was quickly outsed."

>Let Stefan tell it himself: > >"I only had three 1st traditions in my deck actually and I was lucky to get >my predator killed because he had deadlocked all my vampires with >hauntings,lunatic eruptions,brainwash and pentex subversion so I had to kill >him with my deflections deflecting the bleeds directly back at him. After >he was dead I immediately had possesion of my 5 vamps and switched places You probably just glossed over it but just to make sure: although killing your predator would help with the Brainwash and Pentex Subversion, wouldn't you still have to deal with the Hauntings and Lunatic Eruptions? Halcyan 2

[ quoted text not captured ] When my predator was outsed all cards controlled by him were burnt, including the hauntings and lunatic eruptions unless I'm missing something here.

[ quoted text not captured ] Haunting and Lunatic Eruption get stuck on the minion in question; they would be controlled by you, and therefore remain on your guys. Brainwash and Pentex are masters, and therefore go away when your predator goes away. Not to mention I'm not sure how you were able to deflect your predator's bleeds back to him, unless your predator was deflecting bleeds from HIS predator to you in the first place. =) -- Derek "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - C. Darwin, 1871

Stefan wrote: > When my predator was outsed all cards controlled by him were burnt, > including the hauntings and lunatic eruptions unless I'm missing something > here. Your predator doesn't control the Lunatic Eruptions and Hauntings on your vampires - you do. [1.6.3] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

>Not to mention I'm not sure how you were able to deflect your >predator's bleeds back to him, unless your predator was deflecting >bleeds from HIS predator to you in the first place. > >=) > >-- Derek > >"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." > - C. Darwin, 1871 I deflected the bleed of his malkav predator back to him to let him run out of telepathic misdirections. I only needed to deflect 1 bleeding action though (govern+conditioning can hurt if you're only on 6 pool).

>When my predator was outsed all cards controlled by him were burnt, >including the hauntings and lunatic eruptions unless I'm missing something >here. Cards like The Haunting and Lunatic Eruption are minion cards and placed on the particular minion. That means they are controlled by the controller of the vampire (not the Methusaleh who played them). Thus even after he's ousted, The Haunting and Lunatic Eruption, and other such cards are still in play because *he* doesn't control them. Halcyan 2