2 rules questions

1) Two vampires are in combat, both with superior Thaumaturgy. One has 1 blood and the other 2 when strikes are chosen. Both play Theft of Vitae as the strike. How many blood does each vampire have after strike resolution? 2) It says in the rulebook "if a combat card does not state that it can be used at long range then the card can only be used at close range." This has got to be wrong since otherwise no damage could be prevented at long range, and things like combat ends & dodge could not be used at long range. On the other hand, if you can dodges & combat ends, etc. at long range, then what about the Quietus strike "Weakness"? Thanks, Gary S.

In article <4rtld6$4...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, schw...@math.uiuc.edu says... [ quoted text not captured ] 1)They switch blood, since their strikes are resolved simultaneously, and they can't steal more blood than the other vampire has. 2)Strikes, except strike:dodges and Strike:Combat ends, are not sucessful at long range unless they are specifically listed as ranged on the card. I think that there aren't any exceptions to that one. Alec Chang

schw...@math.uiuc.edu (Gary Schwartz) writes: >1) Two vampires are in combat, both with superior Thaumaturgy. One has >1 blood and the other 2 when strikes are chosen. Both play Theft of Vitae as >the strike. How many blood does each vampire have after strike resolution? Both strikes are applies simultaneously, so the first steals all (2) from the second, while the second steals all (1) from the first. The first ends with two, the second ends with one. >2) It says in the rulebook "if a combat card does not state that it can >be used at long range then the card can only be used at close range." >This has got to be wrong since otherwise no damage could be prevented >at long range, and things like combat ends & dodge could not be used >at long range. On the other hand, if you can dodges & combat ends, etc. >at long range, then what about the Quietus strike "Weakness"? It refers only to strikes, correct. All other combat cards apply at either range, unless restricted by card text, of course. (Anything that deals damage during strike resolution obeys the same guidelines, though, like Wolf Companion et. al.) -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Backing into a fan, the firefly http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | was delighted to no end! Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

On 9 Jul 1996, Gary Schwartz wrote: > 1) Two vampires are in combat, both with superior Thaumaturgy. One has > 1 blood and the other 2 when strikes are chosen. Both play Theft of Vitae as > the strike. How many blood does each vampire have after strike resolution? I heard that "the stolen blood can be used to prevent damage", but since steal blood does no damage, the blood actually 'arrives' at the end of damage resolution, I guess. So, #1 setals #2's blood, and vice-versa. What happens is that they 'trade blood' :) > > 2) It says in the rulebook "if a combat card does not state that it can > be used at long range then the card can only be used at close range." > This has got to be wrong since otherwise no damage could be prevented > at long range, and things like combat ends & dodge could not be used > at long range. On the other hand, if you can dodges & combat ends, etc. > at long range, then what about the Quietus strike "Weakness"? > I believe that this phrase was only meant for strike cards, not damage prevention. As for Dodge and CE, they are still legal to play at long range because of their definition: "Dodge prevents the effect of the opponent's strike" (this may even include steal blood, I believe), and CE "ends the combat". One way to properly say this would be "any strike that does not mention range can only affect your opponent at short range". Since Dodge and SCE does not affect your opponent (only what your opponent does to you), this might be better. Of course, Riposte comes to mind, and there goes my theory :) David Pontes 8[