[LSJ] What cards can be burned?

I have tried to search google for this, but I have not managed to find it. When I was in Boston the other week, Ben told me that as of the new expansion the change to the Burn Icon is as follows: In each Methuselahs untap phase, you may burn one card that has the burn option as long as you do not control a minion that meets the requirements of that card. (Used to be in your untap) All cards that have either a Clan requirement (i.e. Asylum Hunting Ground) or title/sect specific requirement (i.e. Requires a ready/Can only be performed by a ready Sabbat/Cam/Seraph/Prince, etc) are now treated as though they have the Burn Option on them. Is this correct? I read through the Black Hand Rule book last night, and couldn't actually find any changes from the Anarchs one (including that Seraph isn't mentioned in the Glossary) except the cover. Any help here would be appreciated. Cheers Andy Brown VEKN Setite Ruler of Cambridge

[ quoted text not captured ] No. Only cards with a burn option icon are treated as if they have a burn option. Look for the burn option icon in the rulebook to see the updated rules for burn option. [1.6.1.3], I think. I don't have a BH rulebook handy at the moment. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:54:17 -0500, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> scrawled: >Slytherin wrote: >> I have tried to search google for this, but I have not managed to find >> it. >> >> When I was in Boston the other week, Ben told me that as of the new >> expansion the change to the Burn Icon is as follows: >> >> In each Methuselahs untap phase, you may burn one card that has the >> burn option as long as you do not control a minion that meets the >> requirements of that card. (Used to be in your untap) >> >> All cards that have either a Clan requirement (i.e. Asylum Hunting >> Ground) or title/sect specific requirement (i.e. Requires a ready/Can >> only be performed by a ready Sabbat/Cam/Seraph/Prince, etc) are now >> treated as though they have the Burn Option on them. >> >> Is this correct? I read through the Black Hand Rule book last night, >> and couldn't actually find any changes from the Anarchs one (including >> that Seraph isn't mentioned in the Glossary) except the cover. >> >> Any help here would be appreciated. >> >> Cheers >> >> Andy Brown >> VEKN Setite Ruler of Cambridge > >No. Only cards with a burn option icon are treated as if they have a >burn option. Look for the burn option icon in the rulebook to see the >updated rules for burn option. [1.6.1.3], I think. I don't have a >BH rulebook handy at the moment. to aid clarification: when the burn option was introduced, it was described in the rulebook as applying to Clan symbols. In BH, some Seraph cards have burn options. By the old rule, because Seraph isn't a clan, you'd have the burn option but not a clan to go with it, so it would implode, taking the universe with it. By the new rewording of the rule, the burn option symbol can be applied to any requirement of a card, not just a clan. for exaple: Seraphs. It DOES NOT mean that any card you don't meet the requirements of, you can exercise the burn option. only cards with such an icon can exercise the option. also, the burn option rule has always been in any methuselah's untap phase. salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

an...@operamail.com (Slytherin) wrote in message news:<deb2bc7d.03111...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] erm... no... the burn option has been extended to cover _other_ requirements than clans. thats all. so if a card _has_ a burn option and has any requirements (clan/title/sect/cap/discipline/mage ally/green hair color of a toreador with cap > 9) and you don't have a ready minion that meets the requirements during _your_ untap phase, you may bin it. that's all.

hawk_the_demon wrote: > so if a card _has_ a burn option and has any requirements > (clan/title/sect/cap/discipline/mage ally/green hair color of a > toreador with cap > 9) and you don't have a ready minion that meets > the requirements during _your_ untap phase, you may bin it. ... during _any_ Methuselah's untap phase (your own or not) ... [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3FBB92BB...@white-wolf.com>... > hawk_the_demon wrote: > > so if a card _has_ a burn option and has any requirements > > (clan/title/sect/cap/discipline/mage ally/green hair color of a > > toreador with cap > 9) and you don't have a ready minion that meets > > the requirements during _your_ untap phase, you may bin it. > > ... during _any_ Methuselah's untap phase (your own or not) ... Thanks for the clarification. Just wanted to check. (Long flight, go back in time, little sleep, long day at work and then someone trying to explain a new change to a rule meant that I obviously didn't quite catch it right. It would be so much easier easier if the world was all on GMT, all the time.) Big Hi to Ben Peal, and everyone in Boston. It was great getting to play against all of you. Hope to see you around in the UK/Europe sometime next year. Cheers Andy [ quoted text not captured ]