Enticement and restriction

Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2] Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn. [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool. Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have? If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this restriction. Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for all of them: Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V] Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If that action is successful, annabelle untaps. (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik) Tajdid, Master, Assamite, R2 , [FN:R2] Master. For the remainder of the game, the Blood Curse no longer prevents Assamites from committing diablerie. Only one Tajdid can be played in a game. (dont know about this) Psychic Veil, Action, 1 blood, Obfuscate, R , [Jyhad:R, V:TES:R, CE:R/PM] [obf] All of your vampires` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. [OBF] All of your minions` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)

niko...@hotmail.com wrote: > Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2] > Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause > your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your > minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn. > [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool. > > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have? > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this > restriction. > By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the duration that you control them. > > Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for > all of them: > > > Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V] > Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the > remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If > that action is successful, annabelle untaps. > (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik) > Affects all Toreador, even those that were not in play or were not Toreador. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/4d6567577706e17b?dmode=source > > Tajdid, Master, Assamite, R2 , [FN:R2] > Master. For the remainder of the game, the Blood Curse no longer > prevents Assamites from committing diablerie. Only one Tajdid can be > played in a game. > (dont know about this) Affects all Assamites, even those that were not in play. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/80180bc36e7964bc?dmode=source > > Psychic Veil, Action, 1 blood, Obfuscate, R , [Jyhad:R, V:TES:R, > CE:R/PM] > [obf] All of your vampires` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. [OBF] > All of your minions` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. > (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik) By extrapolation, it affects all minions that turn while you control those minions. -- - Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

nikol...@hotmail.com wrote: > Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2] > Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause > your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your > minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn. > [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool. > > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have? No. > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this > restriction. Being "your minion", it is "targeted" by the lingering effect. > Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for > all of them: > > Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V] > Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the > remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If > that action is successful, annabelle untaps. > (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik) Does. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/4d6567577706e17b > Tajdid, Master, Assamite, R2 , [FN:R2] > Master. For the remainder of the game, the Blood Curse no longer > prevents Assamites from committing diablerie. Only one Tajdid can be > played in a game. > (dont know about this) Similar. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/80180bc36e7964bc > Psychic Veil, Action, 1 blood, Obfuscate, R , [Jyhad:R, V:TES:R, > CE:R/PM] > [obf] All of your vampires` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. [OBF] > All of your minions` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. > (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik) It does. No previous ruling on that card specifically, AFAIK. Red Herring's restriction would be handled similarly. Similarly, Psychic Projection would give a subsequently-influenced vampire +1 intercept. See also Protected Resources (burned if a minion you later bring out bleeds).

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote: > niko...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2] > > Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause > > your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your > > minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn. > > [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool. > > > > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have? > > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with > > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this > > restriction. > > > > By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the > duration that you control them. Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by extrapolation, and I just realised it was three questions... :) If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with soul gem, can that minion bleed then? (just want to be 100% certain) > > > > Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for > > all of them: > > > > > > Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V] > > Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the > > remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If > > that action is successful, annabelle untaps. > > (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik) > > > > Affects all Toreador, even those that were not in play or were not > Toreador. > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/4d6567577706e17b?dmode=source > Ok, thought I read somewhere that her special wouldnt work in a turbo deck with her. She uses her action, untap, calls a vote to get +1 cap, awe, force of will and burns. I didnt think her special carried over to the next copy of Annabelle, but apparently it does. Cool

nikol...@hotmail.com wrote: > Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote: > > niko...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have? > > > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with > > > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this > > > restriction. > > > > > > > By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the > > duration that you control them. > > Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by extrapolation, and I just > realised it was three questions... :) > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with > soul gem, can that minion bleed then? No.

nikol...@hotmail.com wrote: > Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote: > > niko...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2] > > > Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause > > > your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your > > > minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn. > > > [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool. > > > > > > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have? > > > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with > > > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this > > > restriction. > > > > > > > By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the > > duration that you control them. > > Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by extrapolation, and I just > realised it was three questions... :) "extrapolation": to infer, conjecture, or estimate. Similar cards work in similar ways, so we can assume it works like them. I probably should have moved that card down, to go after the cards with rulings. [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] Thanks, both of you!