rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

(LSJ) Impulse and passing on block attempts

6 messages from 5 participants · 27 July 2010 – 30 July 2010
original thread on Google Groups

floppyzedolfin

Hi, This one is a bit more realistic than the others. 5 players at the table. A is acting, the action is a bleed. B declines to block ( == passes on the impulse). Can A play Conditioning (or any other card) before E gets to declare a block attempt / declines to block ? Thanks, Pascal.

henrik

[ quoted text not captured ] I'd say no. Passing doesn't give the impulse to the acting player, it should pass it over to C (assuming xe exists in the game).

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct* [6.2.2.1] http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/9e55f8a861d8b969 * Under the assumption that C and D also pass, which seems to be assumed. Naturally, if C or D play some effect (including "Dork attempts to block"), the impulse goes back to A who may then play Conditioning.

salem

LSJ wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Are you sure? I thought 'declining to block' was an effect, and thus the impulse should indeed pass back to the Acting methuselah after B declines to block, as A always get the impulse back any time an effect occurs. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading- cards.jyhad/msg/2e822d550cc08072 although reading the thread surrounding that makes me wonder if one methuselah declining to block isn't an effect, but _all_ methuselahs declining sums to an event. or something. -- salem

Jozxyqk

salem <kell...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > [6.2.2.1] > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading- > cards.jyhad/msg/9e55f8a861d8b969 > > > > * Under the assumption that C and D also pass, which seems to be > > assumed. Naturally, if C or D play some effect (including "Dork > > attempts to block"), the impulse goes back to A who may then play > > Conditioning. > Are you sure? I thought 'declining to block' was an effect, and thus the > impulse should indeed pass back to the Acting methuselah after B declines to > block, as A always get the impulse back any time an effect occurs. > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading- > cards.jyhad/msg/2e822d550cc08072 The way I understand it, it depends on how the acting methuselah called for blocks. If you're taking a D action at one other player and you ask "Do you block?" then his answer of "no" will pass the impulse back to you. But if you do the proper thing and ask "Are there any blocks?" then everyone gets a chance to answer before you play an effect. I could be wrong. But even if I'm wrong, it's best to do the second phrasing if there is any AUS, SPI, or vamps with such abilities on the table.

LSJ

On Jul 30, 9:24 am, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote: > salem <kella...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > [6.2.2.1] > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading- > > cards.jyhad/msg/9e55f8a861d8b969 > > > > * Under the assumption that C and D also pass, which seems to be > > > assumed. Naturally, if C or D play some effect (including "Dork > > > attempts to block"), the impulse goes back to A who may then play > > > Conditioning. > > Are you sure? I thought 'declining to block' was an effect, and thus the > > impulse should indeed pass back to the Acting methuselah after B declines to > > block, as A always get the impulse back any time an effect occurs. > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading- > > cards.jyhad/msg/2e822d550cc08072 > > The way I understand it, it depends on how the acting methuselah called for > blocks. > If you're taking a D action at one other player and you ask "Do you block?" > then his answer of "no" will pass the impulse back to you. No. "I don't block" is just another word for "pass". See the rulebook section and the URL linked in my initial reply. > But if you do the proper thing and ask "Are there any blocks?" then everyone > gets a chance to answer before you play an effect. You don't get the choice of selecting which sequence rule to you: you always use the proper on. > I could be wrong. > But even if I'm wrong, it's best to do the second phrasing if there is any > AUS, SPI, or vamps with such abilities on the table. Correct. And at all other times as well.