rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Creepshow Casino and Card Replacement Timing Question

4 messages from 3 participants · 16 December 2002 – 17 December 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Jeff Kuta

Without dredging up all the minutiae of the entire WwEF/Rewind Time/Watenda/Infernal Pursuit discussion, I have one quick question: 1) I Tusk the Talebearer and a Creepshow Casino in play. I have a KRC in hand and want Tusk to call it. I have no extra stealth in hand and have to get past my prey's minion with +1 intercept. Using Tusk's special, I know I have a Lost in Crowds up next. Can I call the KRC, draw up the Lost in Crowds and play it, saving the Creepshow for later use with my second political action? Suppose I didn't have Tusk, should I be announcing use of the Creepshow Casino before or after I replace the KRC?

LSJ

Jeff Kuta wrote: > > Without dredging up all the minutiae of the entire WwEF/Rewind > Time/Watenda/Infernal Pursuit discussion, I have one quick question: > > 1) I Tusk the Talebearer and a Creepshow Casino in play. I have a KRC > in hand and want Tusk to call it. I have no extra stealth in hand and > have to get past my prey's minion with +1 intercept. Using Tusk's > special, I know I have a Lost in Crowds up next. Can I call the KRC, > draw up the Lost in Crowds and play it, saving the Creepshow for later > use with my second political action? Of course. But if the Lost in Crowds is DI'ed, it'll be too late to tap the Creepshow. > Suppose I didn't have Tusk, > should I be announcing use of the Creepshow Casino before or after I > replace the KRC? Yes. The card is replaced "as played". The "as the action is announced" window (Seduction, Creepshow, etc.) comes immediately after the "as played" window (Direct Intervention, etc.). Note that you still have to announce the effect of the card as it is played (including all targets, etc. as applicable) before replacing it. It is only the timing window for "as the action is announced" effects that comes later. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ

LSJ wrote: > > Jeff Kuta wrote: > > > > Without dredging up all the minutiae of the entire WwEF/Rewind > > Time/Watenda/Infernal Pursuit discussion, I have one quick question: > > > > 1) I Tusk the Talebearer and a Creepshow Casino in play. I have a KRC > > in hand and want Tusk to call it. I have no extra stealth in hand and > > have to get past my prey's minion with +1 intercept. Using Tusk's > > special, I know I have a Lost in Crowds up next. Can I call the KRC, > > draw up the Lost in Crowds and play it, saving the Creepshow for later > > use with my second political action? > > Of course. > But if the Lost in Crowds is DI'ed, it'll be too late to tap the Creepshow. > > > Suppose I didn't have Tusk, > > should I be announcing use of the Creepshow Casino before or after I > > replace the KRC? > > Yes. That's "after is fine". :-) [ quoted text not captured ]

henrik ericsson

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3DFE2B29...@white-wolf.com>... > Jeff Kuta wrote: [snip] > > Suppose I didn't have Tusk, > > should I be announcing use of the Creepshow Casino before or after I > > replace the KRC? > > Yes. The card is replaced "as played". The "as the action is announced" > window (Seduction, Creepshow, etc.) comes immediately after the "as > played" window (Direct Intervention, etc.). > > Note that you still have to announce the effect of the card as it is > played (including all targets, etc. as applicable) before replacing it. > It is only the timing window for "as the action is announced" effects > that comes later. That sounds like as if you have to announce the targets for the KRC when it is played... You don't have to choose them until the action is succesful and a referendum is starting, right? /Henrik