How to Kill with Cailean

Get a Raven Spy or Sport Bike, preferably transfered from a weenie via Heidelberg as soon as you come out. Put Covenant of Blood in play Play Haven Uncovered Enter combat with the Haven Play Trap and Drawing out the Beast at Superior Stay at Long Range each round If the Trap threatens to run out, Play another DOTB Just before the DOTB is about to send him to torpor, play Majesty at Superior, paying 1 blood to untap Attack another minion with Bum's Rush Repeat above cycle, playing Majesty to untap Attack another minion with Ambush Repeat above combat, playing Majesty to Untap Attack a Camarilla Vampire with Covenant of Blood Repeat Continue to do the same when Blocking, always staying untapped with Majesty Lupus Australis ____ ____ \ \----/ / |()__()| __\ __ /__ / __\()/__ \ |/ \==/ \| | || |

I think there's a problem: After you played Bum's Rush, i think you can't play Ambush with the same minion... i'm thinking in bleeding with GtU, untap somehow and bleed again with Legal Manipulations... LSJ? What would be the "basic structure" of a deck like this? Are the Raven Spy really necessary? Since Caillean can kill 3 vampires at once, well you probably will eliminate really fast your potencial "enemies"... Anyway, i really liked the idea! .- Luis....@ip.pt Lupus Australis wrote in message ... [ quoted text not captured ]

Lupus Australius wrote: "Enter combat with the Haven Play Trap and Drawing out the Beast at Superior Stay at Long Range each round If the Trap threatens to run out, Play another DOTB Just before the DOTB is about to send him to torpor, play Majesty at Superior, paying 1 blood to untap" Heh, heh. That's pretty hysterical. Very similar to the "Wyn-Wyn situation" deck flying around here for a while. Granted, you'd have to build the entire deck around him, use, like, 9 of him in your crypt, and the deck would be screwed by opposing Majesty (unless you had, like, 60 DotB) and long range combat (Brujah thrown object, Tremere), _and_ Cailean would run out of blood real fast. However, it would be so funny to see, who would care? Peter D Bakija PD...@aol.com "No other object has been misidentified as a flying saucer more often than the planet Venus." -Jesse "The Governor" Ventura

In article <19981108121816...@ng150.aol.com>, PDB6 <pd...@aol.com> wrote: >Lupus Australius wrote: >"Enter combat with the Haven >Play Trap and Drawing out the Beast at Superior >Stay at Long Range each round >If the Trap threatens to run out, Play another DOTB >Just before the DOTB is about to send him to torpor, play Majesty at > Superior, paying 1 blood to untap" > >Heh, heh. That's pretty hysterical. Very similar to the "Wyn-Wyn situation" >deck flying around here for a while. Granted, you'd have to build the entire >deck around him, use, like, 9 of him in your crypt, and the deck would be >screwed by opposing Majesty (unless you had, like, 60 DotB) and long range >combat (Brujah thrown object, Tremere), _and_ Cailean would run out of blood >real fast. However, it would be so funny to see, who would care? The Rack, and perhaps Palatial estates aught to help out with that. And doesn't Heidleburg let you transfer blood from other minions (who are presumably hunting like mad)? You could get a similar effect with Blood Dolls as well, although you'd need alot. -- /\ Jasper Phillips /VVVVVVVVVVVVVV|~"~"~"~"~"~"----------........____ jaz j^^^^^^^^^^^^^\/"~"~"~"~-----------........._____ ~"~--. * http://www.engr.orst.edu/~philljas/ "~"~'--`

In article <36459...@news.ip.pt>, Luis P. Duarte <Luis....@ip.pt> writes >I think there's a problem: >After you played Bum's Rush, i think you can't play >Ambush with the same minion... i'm thinking in bleeding >with GtU, untap somehow and bleed again with Legal >Manipulations... LSJ? Bleed is a defined action type. Entering combat is not. Bum's Rush, Wynn's inbuilt special, Ambush, Haven Uncovered, Imperial Decree's rush, Bloodhunt (the card) rush, Archon's built in rush, and so forth are all considered different actions. -- James Coupe (Prince of Mercia, England) Vampire: Elder Kindred Network http://madnessnetwork.hexagon.net

James Coupe <ve...@obeah.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In article <36459...@news.ip.pt>, Luis P. Duarte <Luis....@ip.pt> > writes > >I think there's a problem: > >After you played Bum's Rush, i think you can't play > >Ambush with the same minion... i'm thinking in bleeding > >with GtU, untap somehow and bleed again with Legal > >Manipulations... LSJ? > > Bleed is a defined action type. Entering combat is not. Bum's Rush, > Wynn's inbuilt special, Ambush, Haven Uncovered, Imperial Decree's rush, > Bloodhunt (the card) rush, Archon's built in rush, and so forth are all > considered different actions. Right. Also, each copy of Haven Uncovered (even on the same vampire) provides its own distinct action type. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

I worked on this and I think you can instead use a lot of Nos and Gan who have POT and ANI. Trap, Drawing out the beast, and then play thrown signpost every round to do two to three damage a turn. I also got rid of some get into combat cards and take Cat's Guidance for blocking people. I'll post it in another day if you want. Brian Roberson

Umax Boy (Sup...@umax.com) wrote: : I worked on this and I think you can instead use a lot of Nos and Gan who [ quoted text not captured ] OK, but the whole point to using Cailean is that he never needs maneuvers to stay at range. He can play trap and draw out the combat as long as he likes, and never worry about running out of maneuvers and being brought to close range. His majesties will be all but unstoppable. The elimination of maneuvers will give his deck a focus which cannot be duplicated. -- [ quoted text not captured ]