Shadow Court Satyr Q

Shadow Court Satyr enters play and gets Reality Mirror. Note that SCS:s text tells nothing about clan requirements. What happens? a) he gets it but cannot play it because he is not a !Malk. b) he gets it and can play it happily ever after. c) something else. -Antero --- Shadow Court Satyr (Changeling) [Sabbat, SW] Cardtype: Ally Clan: Gangrel antitribu Cost: 3 pool [Changeling] with 3 life. 1 strength, 1 bleed. When Shadow Court Satyr comes into play, you may put a combat card from your hand on him. Once each combat, Satyr may use the ability of that card as if that card had been played from your hand. If the card has a cost, he pays its cost in life to use its ability. If the card requires a Discipline, he may only use the basic ability of that card as a vampire with a capacity of 1. If the ability would give him blood, give him life instead. and Reality Mirror [SW] Cardtype: Combat Clan: Malkavian antitribu Choose a combat card in the opposing minion's controller's ash heap, and use the ability of that card as if that card had been played from your hand (pay cost as normal). If the card requires a Discipline this vampire does not have, you can only use the basic ability of that card. Only one Reality Mirror can be played during a game.

AL wrote: > Shadow Court Satyr enters play and gets Reality Mirror. Note that > SCS:s text tells nothing about clan requirements. What happens? > > a) he gets it but cannot play it because he is not a !Malk. > b) he gets it and can play it happily ever after. > c) something else. a) Google: "satyr mirror author:LSJ" -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

nom...@jippii.fi (AL) wrote in message news:<ea6a080a.03040...@posting.google.com>... > Shadow Court Satyr enters play and gets Reality Mirror. Note that > SCS:s text tells nothing about clan requirements. What happens? > > a) he gets it but cannot play it because he is not a !Malk. > b) he gets it and can play it happily ever after. > c) something else. c) He can play it (as you point out, no restriction on playing the card). However, since only one Reality Mirror can be played in a game, and the card is only put on the SCS so that he can use it as a strike "as if played", he can use it, but only once. After use, the card stays on the SCS, but it is ineffectual. DH

[ quoted text not captured ] That's not right - it is a !Malk combat card, only !Malks can play it. Same thing would happen if you gave it Trackers Mark for instance. However, I'm assuming it doesn't trigger the 'only playable once thing) as technically it was just put on it rather than played, so a different !Malk could still use it. While on this subject, presumable putting a combat card with an outferior and inferior means it gets the choice of either (for example, anesthetic touch, can either dodge or strike for hands and then end combat)? Marty -- Direct access to this group with http://web2news.com http://web2news.com/?rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

MartyPorkington wrote: > While on this subject, presumable putting a combat card with an > outferior and inferior means it gets the choice of either (for example, > anesthetic touch, can either dodge or strike for hands and then end > combat)? Yes. There's no difference between outferior and inferior as far as the game is concerned. [ quoted text not captured ]

"MartyPorkington" <martinc.ne...@web2news.net> wrote in message news:<2404...@web2news.com>... > > nom...@jippii.fi (AL) wrote in message > > news:<ea6a080a.03040...@posting.google.com>... > >> Shadow Court Satyr enters play and gets Reality Mirror. Note that > >> SCS:s text tells nothing about clan requirements. What happens? > >> > >> a) he gets it but cannot play it because he is not a !Malk. > >> b) he gets it and can play it happily ever after. > >> c) something else. > > > > c) > > > > He can play it (as you point out, no restriction on > > playing the card). > > However, since only one Reality Mirror can be played in a game, and > > the card is only put on the SCS so that he can use it as a strike "as > > if played", he can use it, but only once. After use, the > > card stays on > > the SCS, but it is ineffectual. > > > > DH > > That's not right - it is a !Malk combat card, only !Malks can play it. > Same thing would happen if you gave it Trackers Mark for instance. > However, I'm assuming it doesn't trigger the 'only playable once thing) > as technically it was just put on it rather than played, so a different > !Malk could still use it. Yeah yeah... I searched on google and wrote the first answer that was given. Further reading down the same thread gives the full answer. > While on this subject, presumable putting a combat card with an > outferior and inferior means it gets the choice of either (for example, > anesthetic touch, can either dodge or strike for hands and then end > combat)? Man, that is powerful! Are there any other powerful cheap cards that SCS can use? DH

"hamdamcwa" <dave...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9e10847c.03041...@posting.google.com... > "MartyPorkington" <martinc.ne...@web2news.net> wrote in message news:<2404...@web2news.com>... > > While on this subject, presumable putting a combat card with an > > outferior and inferior means it gets the choice of either (for example, > > anesthetic touch, can either dodge or strike for hands and then end > > combat)? > > Man, that is powerful! Are there any other powerful cheap cards that > SCS can use? The Anesthetic Touch thing would be a lot more powerful if the Shadow Court Satyr could use *superior* though... since you don't get First Strike at the [obe] "hit and end combat" level. :-) Absorb the Mind is kinda cool - Dodge at [dom] or ranged steal 1 blood at [myt]. Collapse the Arches would be funny - 4R damage at [vis] - but probably not that effective since your SCS has to have blocked a (D) action and get to long range to use it. :-) LSJ - The text on Collapse the Arches "Requires a ready vampire who has blocked a (D) action." doesn't prohibit SCS from using it, does it? Since the SCS plays CtA as a vampire? Or is SCS unable to use it since it wasn't blocking "as a vampire" when it blocked? Could use Conflagration, although the 1-blood cost would mean you'd not likely get too many 1R agg strikes out of it. But it'd be somewhat intimidating. :-) He could Vitae Block to get an optional press at [ani] or temporarily move 2 blood from the opposing vamp at [obe]. I'm not sure how useful that would be in practice though. And... that's all I got. Josh we're all going to die out here.

>The Anesthetic Touch thing would be a lot more powerful if the >Shadow Court Satyr could use *superior* though... since you >don't get First Strike at the [obe] "hit and end combat" level. >:-) Also, don't forget that a SCS with Anesthetic Touch is still hosed by any long range combat. Halcyan 2 still think Earth Meld has the most bang for the buck for the SCS

Joshua Duffin wrote: > LSJ - The text on Collapse the Arches "Requires a ready vampire > who has blocked a (D) action." doesn't prohibit SCS from using > it, does it? Since the SCS plays CtA as a vampire? Or is SCS > unable to use it since it wasn't blocking "as a vampire" when > it blocked? The latter. See also blocking and then DWing a Sniper Rifle. [ quoted text not captured ]

> Also, don't forget that a SCS with Anesthetic Touch is still hosed by any long > range combat. You arent allowed to make a hand strike at long range, even that it would miss and do nothing??? /Jesper

[ quoted text not captured ] You are. Unless card text specifically prohibits it, as in the Anesthetic Touch case. [ quoted text not captured ]

"Jesper" <26984...@mail1.stofanet.dk> wrote in message news:<3e9bcd2f$0$29510$ba62...@nntp04.dk.telia.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] That's not what he said. He said that Anaesthetic Touch is house by long range. You can still strike. So, Concealed weapon + 44 for long, Anaesthetic touch for close... Sucks DH