Suppose Celeste Lamontagne is blocked by Basilia, and plays Pack Alpha
at basic to bring out an Owl Companion. Can Basilia's player play a
Rotschreck to pre-empt the Owl Companion, having seen the Pack Alpha? I
have the same question for Concealed Weapon and, say, .44 Magnum.
Kevin Walsh
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There are two separate points here.
First of all, the general point of what happens when you play a card.
When you play a card, it resolves. That's it. Play, resolve. Then the
next card, play, resolve. V:TES doesn't have the concept of an
interrupt stack or whatever that Magic had. The obvious exceptions to
this are action cards and strikes (which have clearly delayed
resolution), and card cancellation (Sudden Reversal, DI etc.) But on a
Puppy in your Pants (where you find an Owl shaped puppy), it's play,
resolve, then the next card.
Ditto, Concealed Weapon.
To get in the way of play, resolve you need specific timing granted by
card text - such as the "as it is played" found on Sudden Reversal.
However, the second point is that I think you've mistaken how Rotschreck
works.
# Can only be played when a minion attempts to make a strike to
inflict aggravated damage against the opposing vampire. [RTR
20041202]
Both Puppy in your Pants and Concealed Weapon are played before range is
determined.
"[ani] Employ an animal retainer from your hand before range is
determined. Pay cost as normal."
"Equip this minion with a non-unique weapon card from your hand
at the beginning of a round."
As a result, Rotschreck has nothing to be played on - Basilia has not
attempted to strike since you're before range.
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Kevin Walsh wrote:
> Suppose Celeste Lamontagne is blocked by Basilia, and plays Pack Alpha
> at basic to bring out an Owl Companion.>Can Basilia's player play a Rotschreck to pre-empt the Owl Companion,
> having seen the Pack Alpha?
Nope: Rotschreck is played in response to an attempted strike, Pack
Alpha (basic) is played before range is determined; implying no strikes
can have been attempted yet. (not even maneuvers that set strikes for
later can have been used yet) So the Owl player will see the Rotschreck
coming, but if basillia can stay close there's not much they can do
about it.
> I have the same question for Concealed Weapon and, say, .44 Magnum.
Concealed weapon is played at the beginning of the round, and so should
have been played previous to the opportunity to play pack alpha. You
don't have to wait for the acting minion to state their first desired
effect in this case: just (as soon as combat begins) state "I have
something to do at beginning of round, how about you?" and then you get
the magnum before they get to pack alpha (and they may well not bother,
considering you can gun the owl down now...) This is the same as if you
block someone who just wants to Majesty and you need to use Torn
Signpost and Immortal Grapple; you just call out the earliest point at
which you need to do something, and check if they need to, or need to
go earlier. At any point where either player does something, the acting
player goes first.
>
> Kevin Walsh
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I have a further question:
What is the differens between 'beginning of the round' and 'before
range is determined'
Is there more than one 'phase' before the range determine phase?
\Jacob
el_serpiente wrote:
> What is the differens between 'beginning of the round' and 'before
> range is determined'
None.
> Is there more than one 'phase' before the range determine phase?
No.