I recently read the following in the post: [DECK] Silsilla Destruction,
"...This deck wins very often, even against Fortitude because you can
use
"thin Blood" multiple times by restarting combat to reduce your opponent
to
zero blood, preventing him to use all those annoying fortitude cards..."
The thing is, every so often I see similiar statements popping up
concerning Fortitude.
I don't get it, what's the problem with Fortitude against Quietus, isn't
the "damage can not be prevented" on Quietus combat cards effective
against Fortitude? Because if not, I have a lot of explaining to do in
our group.
-Kenneth
"Kenneth Meland" <Kenneth...@ifm.uib.no> a écrit dans le message news:
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> I recently read the following in the post: [DECK] Silsilla Destruction,> "...This deck wins very often, even against Fortitude because you can
> use
> "thin Blood" multiple times by restarting combat to reduce your opponent
> to
> zero blood, preventing him to use all those annoying fortitude cards..."
okay... you didn't really looked tha deck list, did you ?
> The thing is, every so often I see similiar statements popping up
> concerning Fortitude.
> I don't get it, what's the problem with Fortitude against Quietus, isn't
> the "damage can not be prevented" on Quietus combat cards effective
> against Fortitude? Because if not, I have a lot of explaining to do in
> our group.
Yes, unpreventable damage means unpreventable. Even with fortitude.
But look at the deck list.
The fact is : there is only 3 "non preventable" strike cards in this deck.
Basically it's a Immortal Grapple / Khabar Honor (or pushing the limit)
strike for 3/4 aggravated dmg you want to do on your targets. So if they
have fortitude, they will not be harmed at all. And the deck will be
inneficient. Combining Anathema and Thin blood will have a great impact even
on vampires relying heavily on fortitude.
Capice ?
reyda
In message <3BD7F6BA...@ifm.uib.no>, Kenneth Meland
<Kenneth...@ifm.uib.no> writes:
>I don't get it, what's the problem with Fortitude against Quietus, isn't
>the "damage can not be prevented" on Quietus combat cards effective
>against Fortitude? Because if not, I have a lot of explaining to do in
>our group.
It is. Not all cards have that text, however.
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Reyda wrote:
> "Kenneth Meland" <Kenneth...@ifm.uib.no> a écrit dans le message news:
> 3BD7F6BA...@ifm.uib.no...
> > I recently read the following in the post: [DECK] Silsilla Destruction,
>
> > "...This deck wins very often, even against Fortitude because you can
> > use
> > "thin Blood" multiple times by restarting combat to reduce your opponent
> > to
> > zero blood, preventing him to use all those annoying fortitude cards..."
>
> okay... you didn't really looked tha deck list, did you ?
I admit I didn't exactly study your list, but I have now. I use that TB tactic
with Psyche to some extant, but I usually aim for doing more damage in the
first round. I'm usually up against Tremeres and want to avoid second round
combat, and instead rely heavily on Torpor or burning in the first round using
Quietus's unpreventable damage. My group also plays Gangrels and Ventrue with
their pesty fortitude, and again I find Quietus strikes very useful and since
I'm manouvering around alot the Gangrel aggrevated pokes usually aren't much of
a problem, but I like your solution with Disease, good for those Khabar:Honor
strikes. Again my main problem is handling those extensive Thaumaturgy blows, so
if you have a good solution for taking out Tremere let me know. My major tactic
at the moment is sending in some Hidden Lurkers, but the cost of tapping a
vampire hurts my defence against those stealthy Dominate bleeders.
-Kenneth
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"Kenneth Meland" <Kenneth...@ifm.uib.no> wrote in message
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Sounds like your environment needs quite a different deck to the one posted.
I'd say some good old fashioned dodge with additionals will sort the Tremere
out.
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:06:56 +0200, Kenneth Meland
<Kenneth...@ifm.uib.no> wrote:
>Reyda wrote:
>
>I'm manouvering around alot the Gangrel aggrevated pokes usually aren't much of
>a problem, but I like your solution with Disease, good for those Khabar:Honor
>strikes. Again my main problem is handling those extensive Thaumaturgy blows, so
>if you have a good solution for taking out Tremere let me know. My major tactic
Dodge as your initial strike of any given round, then Blur and play all
your toys on the additional strikes, which the Tremere can't generate.
--
Derek
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Kenneth Meland wrote:
> Again my main problem is handling those extensive Thaumaturgy blows, so
> if you have a good solution for taking out Tremere let me know. My major tactic
> at the moment is sending in some Hidden Lurkers, but the cost of tapping a
> vampire hurts my defence against those stealthy Dominate bleeders.
> -Kenneth
I agree with the others, that Dodge + additionals is the straightest route
to a solution. But you might want to look closely at Blood Clots against
the Tremere. Most Tremere decks use a combination of Theft of Vitae and
Walk of Flame. They rely on the stolen blood from ToV to keep them alive
until the big strike can drop. With a Blood Clots on them, they can no
longer gain stolen blood, and become that much more fragile. And Blood
Clots has general utility as well.
Here's a question: can a minion with Blood Clots on them play "steal
blood" strikes? I imagine they can certainly play the card, but does the
opposing minion lose the blood, which then just drains off the opposing
minion?
David Cherryholmes
Prince of Durham
david.che...@duke.edu
David Cherryholmes wrote:
> Here's a question: can a minion with Blood Clots on them play "steal
> blood" strikes? I imagine they can certainly play the card, but does the
> opposing minion lose the blood, which then just drains off the opposing
> minion?
The stolen blood goes to the blood bank (card text on Blood Clots).
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