rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[LSJ]Heidleburg and Camrilla Vitae Slave

3 messages from 3 participants · 20 June 2005 – 21 June 2005
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XZealot

Can Mata Hari equip with a Camrilla Vitae Slave then during her master phase use the slave to gain superior FOR then Heidleburg it over to Alexis Sorokin so that she can use it to gain superior FOR? -- Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr XZealot Archon of the Swamp

Arden McBathan

XZealot wrote: > Can Mata Hari equip with a Camrilla Vitae Slave then during her master phase > use the slave to gain superior FOR then Heidleburg it over to Alexis Sorokin > so that she can use it to gain superior FOR? > > I'd venture to say no, as you choose and keep the Discipline even when CVS is burned. The discipline raise is not connected to the CVS, it's just the ability of CVS to give you a discipline until your next untap. Camarilla Vitae Slave [SAB] - Retainer (Las) (2) * The vampire keeps his chosen discipline at superior until his controller's next untap phase even if the retainer is burned or stolen. [LSJ 24-FEB-1997] Heidelberg isn't exactly stealing (unless you stole the employer temporarily ;), so i'd say this ruling (found with "camarilla vitae slave burned author:lsj") applies...

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct. But Alexis already has one level of Fortitude herself. So while the increase granted by CVS doesn't follow the fate of the CVS, there is a question as to whether the new owner can use it (can it be used twice in the same master phase if owned by two different vampires in turn during that master phase?). The answer to that latter question is also no. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/6179663eb2d209be -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (remove spam trap to reply) Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/