Question about Allies [LSJ]

This is something Justin Fang posted a while ago, and I couldn't find an answer on Deja News...so if you would be so kind, LSJ...and something else I noticed...this could be because WotC also didn't have it listed or something, but I noticed that there is no entry for the Ankara Citadel, Turkey on the Rulemonger page...not a critical problem, but it was somewhat unsettling...incompleteness? Shocking... Justin Fang wrote: Since neither the Ghouled Street Thug nor the Blood Brother Ambush has a listed hand damamge, neither can make hand strikes. But what if one of them uses Torn Signpost? Would that give them a base hand damage of 2, allowing them to make hand strikes, use Undead Strength, etc? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- Xian "You can just ignore it...and let hand jam sort them out." --Jasper Phillips -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

xi...@waste.org (Xian) wrote: > This is something Justin Fang posted a while ago, and I couldn't find an > answer on Deja News...so if you would be so kind, LSJ > > Justin Fang wrote: Since neither the Ghouled Street Thug nor the Blood > Brother Ambush has a listed hand damamge, neither can make hand strikes. But > what if one of them uses Torn Signpost? Would that give them a base hand > damage of 2, allowing them to make hand strikes, use Undead Strength, etc? Allies in general now have a default strength of zero, so they can strike with their hands for zero damage. [6.4.5] They can use Lucky Blow as normal, or get their strength reset by Torn Signpost if they can play potence cards, etc. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <72bfig$34i$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Xian <xi...@waste.org> writes >Justin Fang wrote: Since neither the Ghouled Street Thug nor the Blood >Brother Ambush has a listed hand damamge, neither can make hand strikes. Not quite correct now. They have a hand damage of 0. > But >what if one of them uses Torn Signpost? Would that give them a base hand >damage of 2, Yes. >allowing them to make hand strikes, use Undead Strength, etc? They can play Undead Strength for 1 hand damage anyway. A rules reversal by LSJ was issued in the middle of a thread. -- James Coupe (Prince of Mercia, England) Vampire: Elder Kindred Network http://madnessnetwork.hexagon.net