LSJ-yet another temptation question...

Hi ! reyda said you cannot burn 0 counters on a temptation card to untap a tempted vampire. Was he right ? Thank you =)

"Dimple" <dimple_...@yhaoo.fr> wrote in message news:3d124be1$0$10517$626a...@news.free.fr... > Hi ! > reyda said you cannot burn 0 counters on a temptation card to untap a > tempted vampire. Was he right ? No. You can, as long as the vampire has 0 blood. This won't get you a whole lot of untaps as long as the "vampires at 0 blood must hunt and can't do anything else" rule exists, though. :-) ps - works for Form of Corruption, too. Josh zero is a number

Joshua Duffin wrote: > "Dimple" <dimple_...@yhaoo.fr> wrote in message > > reyda said you cannot burn 0 counters on a temptation card to untap a > > tempted vampire. Was he right ? > > No. You can, as long as the vampire has 0 blood. This > won't get you a whole lot of untaps as long as the "vampires > at 0 blood must hunt and can't do anything else" rule exists, > though. :-) > > ps - works for Form of Corruption, too. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D13106C...@white-wolf.com>... > Joshua Duffin wrote: > > "Dimple" <dimple_...@yhaoo.fr> wrote in message > > > reyda said you cannot burn 0 counters on a temptation card to untap a > > > tempted vampire. Was he right ? > > > > No. You can, as long as the vampire has 0 blood. This > > won't get you a whole lot of untaps as long as the "vampires > > at 0 blood must hunt and can't do anything else" rule exists, > > though. :-) > > > > ps - works for Form of Corruption, too. > > Correct. RE: "This won't get you a whole lot of untaps" I don't think the hunt is the biggest problem. A couple of very easy ways to get around it would be via Media Influence, or Heidelberg Castle. *Any* temptation deck can use the castle to good effect - use it to drain vampires that you 'borrow'. Damn good. A trickier method would be to get Pier 13, and keep grabbing Blood Tears with it. The real limit to the untaps (I think) is that you can only untap once per turn with each temptation. Hollowboy

"Hollowboy" <icantbelievehollow...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:614f2a39.02062...@posting.google.com... > > > > re: burn 0 counters on a temptation card to untap a > > > > tempted vampire. > RE: "This won't get you a whole lot of untaps" > > I don't think the hunt is the biggest problem. A couple of very easy > ways to get around it would be via Media Influence, or Heidelberg > Castle. *Any* temptation deck can use the castle to good effect - use > it to drain vampires that you 'borrow'. Damn good. > > A trickier method would be to get Pier 13, and keep grabbing Blood > Tears with it. > > The real limit to the untaps (I think) is that you can only untap once > per turn with each temptation. You're right, of course; I was forgetting while posting that the "during X do Y" template that Temptation uses only lets you do Y (take control/untap) once per X (minion phase). Good ideas on ways to get around that if there weren't such a limitation, though Heidelberg is only usable once a turn and Pier 13 is during influence phase (so not usable to get more actions). Josh tempting, tempting...

[snip] > > RE: "This won't get you a whole lot of untaps" > > I don't think the hunt is the biggest problem. A couple of very easy > ways to get around it would be via Media Influence, You can't use Media Influence to get around the problem due to 6. "Any time during a Methuselah's minion phase that one of her ready untapped vampires is empty (and not otherwise prohibited from hunting), he must hunt immediately, before any other action is taken by any minion." Chris.

> > A trickier method would be to get Pier 13, and keep grabbing Blood > Tears with it. Pier 13 works only during influence phase and is a unique equipment, so you are not able to equip them via pier 13. You can use vast wealth instead.

chr...@comcen.com.au (Chris Arthur) wrote in message news:<5a63bace.02062...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Chris, we were talking about multiple untaps. So, the first time you untap empty, you have to hunt. But untapping *again*, whilst empty, you could then benefit from a Media Influence, or (say in a Freakdriving Ravnos deck) a Patshiv, to wring an extra action out of one vampire.