rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Force of Will and modifiers

6 messages from 4 participants · 16 August 2010
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Amberan

Hi, I have a question about Force of Will and the course of action: A tapped minion A with 1 blood plays Force of Will (on minor [for]). [Action Fortitude 1 blood [for] Only usable by a tapped vampire. (D) Bleed with +1 bleed. This vampire takes 2 points of aggravated damage (damage not preventable), even if the action is blocked. Damage occurs after the action or combat is resolved. [FOR] As above, but the (D) bleed is at +2 bleed and the acting vampire takes 1 point of aggravated damage (damage not preventable). ] Some prey's minion B attempts to block. And now the interesting part comes: If the minion A plays e.g. Spectral Divination [Action Modifier/Reaction] Necromancy 1 Blood [nec] [ACTION MODIFIER] +1 stealth. [NEC] [REACTION] +1 intercept.] to gain +1 stealth, he pays the 1 blood he has. Action remains unblocked. Now will the aggravated damage from Force of Will occur, even if the minion A now does not have the blood to pay it? Thanks a lot. Amberan

Izaak

"Amberan" <amb...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht news:864de02f-f20c-4644...@k10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Yes. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/df9becceccc664e0/374dfc35dd0fae60

Amberan

Great, thanks a lot. Now another situation - if the minion A does not play the stealth, so combat begins. Minion B moves to long range and does no damage. Combat ends. Now - the minion A still have that 1 blood. Will he pay the 1 blood for the Force of Will and thus be burned (minor fortitude, 2 aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second burns him) or will he keep the 1 blood and thus stay in torpor with no blood (minor fortitude, 2 aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second takes the last blood)? Thanks. David On 16 srp, 12:10, "Izaak" <nom...@usenet.plz> wrote: > "Amberan" <ambe...@gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:864de02f-f20c-4644...@k10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_t...

LSJ

On Aug 16, 7:52 am, Amberan <ambe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great, thanks a lot. > > Now another situation - if the minion A does not play the stealth, so > combat begins. Minion B moves to long range and does no damage. Combat > ends. > > Now - the minion A still have that 1 blood. Will he pay the 1 blood > for the Force of Will No. It was blocked. > and thus be burned (minor fortitude, 2 > aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second burns him) or > will he keep the 1 blood and thus stay in torpor with no blood (minor > fortitude, 2 aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second > takes the last blood)? The latter: he doesn't pay for the blocked action. [ quoted text not captured ]

Amberan

OK, thanks again. Amberan [ quoted text not captured ]

Jozxyqk

Amberan <amb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great, thanks a lot. > Now another situation - if the minion A does not play the stealth, so > combat begins. Minion B moves to long range and does no damage. Combat > ends. > Now - the minion A still have that 1 blood. Will he pay the 1 blood > for the Force of Will and thus be burned (minor fortitude, 2 > aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second burns him) or > will he keep the 1 blood and thus stay in torpor with no blood (minor > fortitude, 2 aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second > takes the last blood)? The action was unsuccessful, so the cost wasn't paid. He keeps his blood, and takes 2 agg damage, so he's in torpor empty.