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JYHAD: Untapping OTHER Methuselah's minions

4 messages from 3 participants · 31 December 1994 – 04 January 1995 · rec.games.deckmaster
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Rincewind

Let's say that this scenario occurs: Emily is all tapped out because of her earlier actions in a round. Her predator, Mark, now proceeds to bleed her. However, Ken offers to help Emily (in exchange for later vote support) by untapping one of her minions with Rat's Warning or Wake With Evening's Freshness so that she can block Mark's bleed. Is that a legal move? It says in the rulebook that directed actions (and thus, all bleeds) can only be blocked by the victim Methuselah (but doesn't say anything about not allowing or allowing other players to help untap the victim so she can block). Another thing the rulebook says is that combat actions go as follows: acting minion, blocking minion, other players clockwise. Does this sequence of play also apply to bleed actions? (i.e., can a reaction card be played out of turn by a methuselah who is not directly affected by the action?)

Thomas R Wylie

Rincewind <snowlock@phantom.com> wrote: > Emily is all tapped out because of her earlier actions in a round. >Her predator, Mark, now proceeds to bleed her. However, Ken offers to >help Emily (in exchange for later vote support) by untapping one of her >minions with Rat's Warning or Wake With Evening's Freshness so that she >can block Mark's bleed. Is that a legal move?... No. Action modifiers and reactions only affect the vampire using such a card unless the card says otherwise. Both of the cards you mention specifically say they affect "this vampire", meaning the vampire playing the card. See superior Cloak the Gathering for an example of a modifier which can be used on another minion. >Another thing the rulebook says is that combat actions go as follows: >acting minion, blocking minion, other players clockwise. > Does this sequence of play also apply to bleed actions? (i.e., can a >reaction card be played out of turn by a methuselah who is not directly >affected by the action?) It is possible for any Methuselah other than the acting player to play reactions, assuming the reaction card allows it. The defending player would get priority in playing reactions; priority for other players reacting should probably be that of the turn order, starting from the acting player. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aahz@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Dale Hurtt

In article <3e70vf$knu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, aahz@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) wrote: > > Rincewind <snowlock@phantom.com> wrote: > >Another thing the rulebook says is that combat actions go as follows: > >acting minion, blocking minion, other players clockwise. > > Does this sequence of play also apply to bleed actions? (i.e., can a > >reaction card be played out of turn by a methuselah who is not directly > >affected by the action?) > > It is possible for any Methuselah other than the acting player to play > reactions, assuming the reaction card allows it. The defending player > would get priority in playing reactions; priority for other players reacting > should probably be that of the turn order, starting from the acting player. > > > > Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for > aahz@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc. Considering that a bleed is a direct action, you would have to have a card that allows you to intercept any action, such as "Eagle's Sight", or a character that can do the same, such as "Anneke", in order to intercept someone else's bleed -- would you not? -- Dale Hurtt dhurtt@harris.com

Thomas R Wylie

Dale Hurtt <dhurtt@ic1d.harris.com> wrote: >Considering that a bleed is a direct action, you would have to have a card >that allows you to intercept any action, such as "Eagle's Sight", or a >character that can do the same, such as "Anneke", in order to intercept >someone else's bleed -- would you not? Correct, but the original thread seemed to be asking about using reactions not relating to intercept. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aahz@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.