rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

LSJ - Question about Out of turn Master

10 messages from 7 participants · 26 February 2002 – 27 February 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Martin Laganičre

Dont MEGA-BLAST me if somebody already asked that , but if i have Anson or the Parthenon , can I play 2 master Out of Turn ? Thanks , ML

James Coupe

In message <WFAe8.5712$tA.9...@news20.bellglobal.com>, Martin Laganière <Spittin...@venom.com> writes: >Dont MEGA-BLAST me if somebody already asked that , but if i have Anson or >the Parthenon , can I play 2 master Out of Turn ? No. [1.6.2.3] -- James Coupe but I lust after the raw pow0r of c. PGP 0x5D623D5D together with the humping great EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 elephant arse of gnome. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D - Vashti

Reyda

"Martin Laganière" <Spittin...@venom.com> wrote in message news:WFAe8.5712$tA.9...@news20.bellglobal.com... > Dont MEGA-BLAST me if somebody already asked that , but if i have Anson or > the Parthenon , can I play 2 master Out of Turn ? ULTRA BLAST YA !!!!!!! NO ! You can never, ever, play 2 master out of Turn. No cards allows this. reyda

Halcyan 2

>Dont MEGA-BLAST me if somebody already asked that , but if i have Anson or >the Parthenon , can I play 2 master Out of Turn ? No. The rules do not allow you to play multiple Master OOT's even if you have ways of getting multiple master phases. Anyway, there's no way to guarantee you'll still have Anson or the Parthenon out by the time your next Master phase rolls around. Halcyan 2

Martin Laganičre

"Halcyan 2" <halc...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020225214258...@mb-mv.aol.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Good point .

Reyda

"Martin Laganière" <Spittin...@venom.com> wrote in message news:7IDe8.6607$tA.11...@news20.bellglobal.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Not so good point, actually.... you're free to use your master out of turn even if nothing guarantees you are still in the game when your turn comes. =)

Rafe

> > Anyway, there's no way to guarantee you'll still have Anson or the > Parthenon > > out by the time your next Master phase rolls around. Although, as a friend pointed out to me the other night, you are guaranteed two master phase actions if you use Syneosis' ability when you play an out of turn master, as it will still be in effect even if Syneosis is no longer ready on the next turn: Synesios 8 capacity obf POT PRE ser TEM True Brujah 2 votes Independent: Synesios has 2 votes. You may pay a pool when you play a Master: Out-of-Turn card to gain an extra Master Phase Action in your next master phase. Synesios cannot use cards that require Celerity. Scarce. Though obviously this does not counter the 'one OoT master' rule, it does give an assured second master phase action (which none of the other 'master gainers' did). - Rafe

LSJ

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <WFAe8.5712$tA.9...@news20.bellglobal.com>, Martin > Laganière <Spittin...@venom.com> writes: > >Dont MEGA-BLAST me if somebody already asked that , but if i have Anson or > >the Parthenon , can I play 2 master Out of Turn ? > > No. [1.6.2.3] Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Frederick Scott

Reyda wrote: > > "Martin Laganière" <Spittin...@venom.com> wrote in message > news:7IDe8.6607$tA.11...@news20.bellglobal.com... > > > > "Halcyan 2" <halc...@aol.com> wrote in message > > > Anyway, there's no way to guarantee you'll still have Anson or the > > > Parthenon out by the time your next Master phase rolls around. > > > > Good point . > > Not so good point, actually.... > you're free to use your master out of turn even if nothing guarantees you > are still in the game when your turn comes. =) Sure, you can use your master out-of-turn regardless of whether you'll have another turn. But that's irrelevant. The point Halcyan 2 made was that the extra MPA that you would lose for playing an extra out-of-turn master - which is the alleged justification for playing that extra OOT - isn't guaranteed to be there come your turn. The potential for being ousted exists either way, but people who want to play a second OOT are assuming that two potential MPAs = two allowable OOTs right now. He was just saying that a potential MPA can go away by other means besides ousting. Fred (gad I like to argue...BUT...it was too a very good point!)

Halcyan 2

>> > > Anyway, there's no way to guarantee you'll still have Anson or the >> > > Parthenon out by the time your next Master phase rolls around. >> > >> > Good point . >> >> Not so good point, actually.... >> you're free to use your master out of turn even if nothing guarantees you >> are still in the game when your turn comes. =) > >Sure, you can use your master out-of-turn regardless of whether you'll have >another turn. But that's irrelevant. The point Halcyan 2 made was that the >extra MPA that you would lose for playing an extra out-of-turn master - which >is the alleged justification for playing that extra OOT - isn't guaranteed to >be there come your turn. The potential for being ousted exists either way, >but people who want to play a second OOT are assuming that two potential >MPAs = two allowable OOTs right now. He was just saying that a potential >MPA can go away by other means besides ousting. Thanks for putting it so eloquently Fred! =) Halcyan 2