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Followers of Set Newsletter (October 2003)

36 messages from 16 participants · 09 October 2003 – 11 October 2003
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Wes

FOLLOWERS OF SET NEWSLETTER Volume 3, Issue 7 October 2003 Author: Andrew 'Wes' Weston ========================================================== TABLE OF CONTENTS Introduction Fiction Deck Construction - Dealing with unknowns Card Analysis - Dismemberment of Osiris Contest Sign Off ========================================================== INTRODUCTION Welcome to the October installment of the Followers of Set newsletter. If you are not a worshiper of our Dark Lord, then please stop reading now. These newsletters are not for infidels. If however you are interested in attending one of our services, we have open houses at the Temple every Saturday (noon for mortals, midnight for immortals). No children under the age of twelve please. ========================================================== FICTION It is surprising how foolish some of these immortals are. Despite the promise of eternal life (if you concede that this constitutes "living") the same old prejudices rear their ugly heads again and again. Racism, classism, sexism... you would think that such concepts would disappear after one becomes undead. Instead, we are cursed with a new "ism", that of clannism. And ageism becomes much more tedious when you remain young eternally. I am... much older than I appear. As you know, I was known in the sixties as a popular screen actor; a fact which has both helped and hindered my new career as a vampire. Many an attractive young fan seeking autographs has instead had the honour of coming backstage for a little bit of fun. More fun for me I might add, since they rarely leave my dressing room with more blood than they entered with. Suffice to say, a little bit of fame goes a long way when one is constantly hungering for blood. I pity the poor kindred who stalk the streets like common muggers. It must be a very dreary existence. The downside of fame of course is that people *know who you are*. The tabloids claim that I am no longer starring in films because of my bad attitude on the set and an addiction to opiates. That bad attitude was always part of the act, I should add. The opiates were real however... and still are. No, the truth is that I would love to continue acting on film, but my clan's unfortunate flaw often gets in the way. Some of my more religious brethren claim this aversion to bright lights is a blessing from Set. A blessing?!? No, I'd much rather have an affliction like the lucky Ventrue have. It's not like I wasn't being picky about my meals already. But once again, I digress. When people know who you are, they constantly ask questions. Questions can be... inconvenient, especially when one is living such a big lie. I suppose all undead must go through this, but none seem to have such a hard time of it as I do. "Why do you only perform on stage these days, Hannibal", they ask me. The women all want to know how I can look so young. The 'rejuvenating cream' excuse is getting rather old, if you will pardon the pun. Being known as an actor has helped me in the world of immortals also. It's funny how many kindred assume that you are a Toreador because you were an 'artist' as a mortal. I've found I can encourage this belief with the occasional stare into space when I see a particularly beautiful piece by an up-and-coming artist. Truth be told, most art bores me immensely. However, not being known as a Follower of Set is very convenient. Yes, even in undeath, vampires have silly prejudices against our clan. Of course, so do I, since the majority of Setites act like they were Hare Krishnas with fangs. Pathetic really. And this fascination with corruption? Please. And so I have become a Toreador, in all ways that matter. The so called "artistes" are seen favourably (more or less) by the other clans and this allows me to deal with vampire society without having to also deal with the unfortunate attitudes towards my true clan. So you see... I never stopped acting. In fact, I am acting right now. As we speak. I hope this answers your questions, young lady. I will assume it does since you appear to be paralyzed at the moment. It's the eyes, you see. Comes with the clan. Now... what blood type did you say you were? ========================================================== DECK CONSTRUCTION -- Dealing with unknowns "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy" --Military maxim I have always been a proponent of building a focused deck. I find that focus, and the speed that comes with it, is far more effective than the versatility of a toolboxy deck. Of late however, I have found that this only goes so far. Once your opponents know what your deck does, they can more easily shut it down by applying pressure in the right areas. I sometimes find myself stuck in neutral with nothing to do. A vote deck faces an intercept prey. A combat deck faces a fortitude prey. Often these situations are unavoidable but sometimes adding a bit of diversity to a deck will allow you to do something other than sit on your hands and wait to be ousted. If your deck is a simple sneak bleeder for example, you'll obviously want a lot of bleed cards and a lot of stealth cards (and a bucket for people to throw up in of course). If all your deck has in it are bleed and stealth cards, then your deck is focused, yes... but it is also boring and easy to shut down. Anti-combat cards will help obviously, as will some intercept. Of course, the more you add, the less focused your deck becomes. But sometimes, sacrificing a little bit of focus can give you an edge in ways that will later become a major benefit. Do you often catch yourself saying "Damn! I wish I had included (such and such power card) in this deck"? Of course, the Hunting Ground that would have helped in one game would be completely useless in another game. It all depends who you sit down next to and what they are playing. When dealing with so many unknowns, what can we do? When we have a hard time going forward, what can we do? It's at times like these that I find it beneficial to make deals with other Methuselahs and encourage random chaos in the rest of the table. If my prey is getting too strong, I turn the table against him. Some people can encourage this kind of behaviour with nothing more than a silver tongue. I find that having a few things to offer them makes the deal a lot sweeter. So I have taken to adding a few "permanents" to many of my decks to give me an edge in deal-making. Adding one of the intercept locations not only gives you the potential to block unwanted actions, it also gives you the potential to make deals. You would be surprised how often your predator will leave you alone if you provide her with a little intercept for one turn. Even if it's for only one turn, that's a lot of pressure taken off of you. When you choose a card to put in your deck, see if there is a similar card that can be used more generally. For example, Morgue Hunting Ground will help you give blood to your vampires, but Leonardo the Mortician will let you give blood to *other vampires* across the table. While this may seem like a piddly thing to offer, there are generally vampires that need blood and their Methuselahs may appreciate it. They may appreciate it enough to offer you something you need in return. Powerbase: Montreal and High Museum of Art, Atlanta are two cards that are generally associated with intercept decks. Since they are able to be stolen by other Methuselahs, decks tend to provide some kind of defense against this. But the other aspect that people often forget about these cards is that they can give other people pool and consequently they can keep them from being ousted. I often "allow" another Methuselah to steal Powerbase: Montreal to give themselves some pool gain. If I think I will be wanting it back, I make it known when the offer is made. Nine times out of ten, people don't mind sharing it. Usually I try this with my predator. Even the action to take my Powerbase is one less bleed or hostile vote, etc. It has often been said that the perfect predator has no minions and lots of pool. With this idea, you are basically tapping one of their minions and giving them some pool. It may be just a temporary reprieve, but you never know when you will need it. My favourite card for deal-making is still the Rumour Mill, Tabloid Newspaper. For more information about how I use this card, please see the August 2002 issue of this newsletter. http://www.mnsi.net/~ghost/jyhad/vol3iss3.htm ========================================================== CARD ANALYSIS -- Dismemberment of Osiris http://monger.vekn.org/showcard.html?ID=1049 Dismemberment of Osiris Serpentis Action 1 Blood [ser] (D) Burn a titled vampire in torpor. This does not constitute diablerie. Each ready vampire of the same clan as the titled vampire burns 1 blood. [SER] As above, and the controller of the titled vampire burns 1 pool. This is one of those "rare" cards that I somehow ended up with a lot of. Unfortunately, it is not a great card. Burning a titled vampire sounds pretty good on paper. The problem is that Followers of Set are not that great at putting vampires in torpor in the first place. Neither OBF, PRE or SER are particularly great combat disciplines. Obfuscate has Disguised Weapon, but relying on this card, plus a weapon to torpor with, and then hoping we happen to hit a titled vampire with the weapon and then having Dismemberment of Osiris in our hand at the perfect time. Suffice to say, the deck built around this prayer combo already sounds like a bit of a joke. Serpentis by all rights *should* be a combat discipline, at least if you compare it to the way the discipline works in the pen-and-paper game of Vampire: the Masquerade. But as things stand, Setites are better at avoiding combats than we are at winning them. Amam the Devourer seems like one of the few ways that Setites have of sending vampires to torpor. Since he does 2 damage, a rush against an empty or anemic vampire might achieve the desired effect. But Amam also has another ability; he can burn vampires in torpor. So Dismemberment of Osiris starts to seem a little redundant. Speaking of this card's redundancy, if we really wanted to burn vampires in torpor, it seems to me that a better way to do it would be to use Samat Ramal-Ra, who can diablerize with impunity. This way we not only burn the vampire, we gain whatever blood or equipment it has on it, and possibly gain a discipline card out of the deal. Of course, other vampires outside of the Setites have Serpentis. (Don't ask me how. We are currently investigating this discrepancy and traitors will be dealt with harshly!). Other clans, notably the Gangrel heathens of Mirembe and Nadima might find it easier to use this card since they are already built for combat. Aziz of the Assamites is another possibility. But frankly, the more I try to find ways to use this card, the less useful it seems. ========================================================== CONTEST It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. Name two or more ways that this is possible. Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter. ========================================================== SIGN OFF I hope you have enjoyed this most recent installment of the Followers of Set newsletter. As always, questions and comments are appreciated. Cheers, WES

Carl Pilhatsch

> > ========================================================== > CONTEST > > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. > Name two or more ways that this is possible. > > Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter. > Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer Hacking. Easy and amusing. :) Carl

Timlagor

Carl Pilhatsch expounded: [ quoted text not captured ] I missed that one. There are at least two others (much leass easy).

Francois Gombault

Carl Pilhatsch wrote: >> It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. >> Name two or more ways that this is possible. >> >> Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter. Must play then! :) > Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer > Hacking. Turn one: play Malkavian Dementia to take control of that weeny Malk who just showed up. Bleed. For 5. ;p -- Francois BART BUCKS, ARE NOT LEGAL TENDER Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 8F06

Wes

"Timlagor" <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote > > > > Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer Hacking. > > I missed that one. There are at least two others (much leass easy). Care to share them with the rest of the class? Cheers, WES

Wes

"Carl Pilhatsch" <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote > > > > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. > > Name two or more ways that this is possible. > > > > Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter. > > > > Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer Hacking. > > Easy and amusing. :) I will give you ONE point for a correct answer, but you lose ONE point for only answering half the question :) There is one other way that I know of. Maybe more that I don't know of... Cheers, WES

Damnans

[...] > ========================================================== > CONTEST > > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. > Name two or more ways that this is possible. 1. Your predator has brought out Igo, The Hungry (for instance) and calls a Regaining the Upper hand, giving you the edge. Name: Regaining the Upper Hand [Jyhad:C, VTES:C, Sabbat:C] Cardtype: Political Action Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth. Choose a Methuselah. Successful {referendum} means the chosen Methuselah gets the Edge. 2. On your first turn, you bring out Ohanna. Before your untap phase (i.e., on your predator's turn), your predator plays a Madness Network (since he or she controls Normal). At the end of his or her minion phase you bleed with Ohanna and get the edge. Name: Madness Network [Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R] Cardtype: Master Clan: Malkavian Unique master. Put this card in play. After another Methuselah has finished all of his or her minion phase actions, any untapped Malkavians (going clockwise) can take actions. Any minion can burn this card as an action that any untapped Malkavian (in addition to the normally eligible blockers) can attempt to block (go clockwise if 2 or more want to block). Greetings, Damnans

Wes

"Francois Gombault" <gombault...@BROKEN.ADDRESS.wanadoo.fr> wrote > > Turn one: play Malkavian Dementia to take control of that weeny Malk who > just showed up. Bleed. > For 5. ;p Errrr.... looks like there are at least three or more ways to do this apparently. Francois gets 73.8 points for thinking of one that I missed. There are probably even more knowing my dumb luck. Oh well, there's still at least one that nobody's mentioned yet. At least this is more fun than analyzing a FoS deck, right? Cheers, WES

Wes

"Damnans" <damna...@ono.com> wrote > > 1. Your predator has brought out Igo, The Hungry (for instance) and calls > a Regaining the Upper hand, giving you the edge. You get something for this one, though someone already mentioned it in a private email. This was in fact was the other solution I had thought of. So for this answer I give you 6017 points, which you will have to split evenly with the other guy who got it right (who apparently wants to be secretive about it :) > 2. On your first turn, you bring out Ohanna. Before your untap phase (i.e., on > your > predator's turn), your predator plays a Madness Network (since he or she > controls Normal). > At the end of his or her minion phase you bleed with Ohanna and get the edge. Nice! (Of course, it's possible you could be blocked. And Ohanna only has dom :) Yet another solution I hadn't thought of. Maybe someone else should be thinking of these contests. I am obviously not imaginative enough heheh. For this solution I will give you PI points, to the infinite decimal point. That should keep you occupied for a while. Did anyone read the *rest* of my friggin' newsletter? *sigh* :) Cheers, WES

Reyda

"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message news:bm3ho...@enews2.newsguy.com... > > "Francois Gombault" <gombault...@BROKEN.ADDRESS.wanadoo.fr> wrote > > > > Turn one: play Malkavian Dementia to take control of that weeny Malk > who > > just showed up. Bleed. > > For 5. ;p > > Errrr.... looks like there are at least three or more ways to do this > apparently. hahahaha :) Stooooopid ! don't send puzzles on the forum unless you're sure of what tha answers are !! =D

Wes

"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote By the way, there is still at least *one more* that has not been mentioned. I was sent a very convoluted solution by email that does qualify. If anyone guesses it here on the newsgroup I will *double* your point total! Cheers, WES

Wes

"Reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote > > hahahaha :) > Stooooopid ! don't send puzzles on the forum unless you're sure of what tha > answers are !! =D Yeah, same thing happened with my last contest. Who knew so many vampires were based on real people? Some of them should sue! Cheers, WES

Reyda

"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message news:bm3mq...@enews1.newsguy.com... [ quoted text not captured ] isn't it the greatest honor here to have one's face printed on a v:tes card ?? ;D

Carl Pilhatsch

[ quoted text not captured ] Do I have to remind you that there exists a couple of photographs, showing you in some.. dubious action...? You wouldn't want *someone* to hand them to the pres, would you...? *knowing smile* ;) Now, as I have answered your question - there is no denying the facts, is there? - you should keep your end of the bargain. Honestly, if you were in my position, you'd appreciate if I were true to the deal, I'm sure of that. Now, where were we... :) Ok, ok. But the question was really answered - bleed, get the edge, next turn get one pool. End of exercise. Carl

Kamel SENNI

Carl Pilhatsch <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote in message news:<%Wahb.135246$qU6.2...@news.chello.at>... > > > > ========================================================== > > CONTEST > > > > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. > > Name two or more ways that this is possible. > > > > Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter. > > > > Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer Hacking. > > Easy and amusing. :) > > Carl Malkavian dementia on normal turn one. Bleed with him. Turn two get the edge. Kamel SENNI

Wes

"Reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote > > isn't it the greatest honor here to have one's face printed on a v:tes card > ?? ;D Not what I meant. Read the contest from my last newsletter: http://www.mnsi.net/~ghost/jyhad/vol3iss6.htm Unfortunately, I don't seem to have a copy of the answers I got for that contest. Might be on my work machine. Anyway, there was something like 6 or 7 vampires based on historical figures. A lot more than the three I thought of. Cheers, WES P.S. If my face *was* on a vampire card, that card could be crap and people would still pay $40 a pop on Ebay for it!

Wes

"Carl Pilhatsch" <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote > > Do I have to remind you that there exists a couple of photographs, > showing you in some.. dubious action...? > You wouldn't want *someone* to hand them to the pres, would you...? > *knowing smile* ;) Carl, the last time you threatened me with photographs, one of them ended up as the new Camarilla version of Gird Minions (though I am slightly off-camera in that version thankfully). So I believe your threat... have your dang points! Gah! > Now, as I have answered your question - there is no denying the facts, > is there? - you should keep your end of the bargain. Honestly, if you > were in my position, you'd appreciate if I were true to the deal, I'm > sure of that. > Now, where were we... Ok, I hereby declare that Carl has *triple* the points I previously gave him. Sorry for the misunderstanding, sir. It won't happen again. Cheers, WES

Matthew T. Morgan

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Wes wrote: > ========================================================== > CONTEST > > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. > Name two or more ways that this is possible. Here's my contribution. I think you'll find it to be far stupider than any of the other answers. 5 player table. I am player 5. Player 1: Transfer 1 pool and discard. Player 2: Play Succubus Club and transfer out Krid. Player 3: Transfer out Normal. Player 4: Malkavian Dementia on Normal. Normal calls Reversal of Fortunes. Passes 1-0. Player 3: Transfer some pool. Player 2: Tap Succubus Club to trade Krid to player 5 (me). Player 1: Transfer some pool. Player 5: Bleed for 1 with Krid. Player 4: Transfer out Zoė. Player 3: Bleed for 1 with Normal (Telepathic Counter by Zoė). Player 2: Influence out somebody. Player 1: Influence out somebody. Player 5: Gain 1 pool for holding the edge on turn 2! Matt Morgan A lot of my games are like that. Honest.

Wes

"Kamel SENNI" <kamel...@yvelines.pref.gouv.fr> wrote > > Malkavian dementia on normal turn one. Bleed with him. > Turn two get the edge. > Kamel SENNI You are correct! ...but about two hours too late. Someone already mentioned this one (more or less) before you. And also you appear to be French, and since your country did not support Canada in our recent war against the French Canadians... errr... Freedom Canadians, I am forced to deduct even more points from your score. No points for you! Cheers, WES (A *just kidding* disclaimer here, lest the hordes of V:tES-playing Quebecois take this post at all seriously...)

John Flournoy

Carl Pilhatsch <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote in message news:<%Wahb.135246$qU6.2...@news.chello.at>... > > [ quoted text not captured ] Method 2: Turn one, your predator influences out a small Malkavian, and so do you in turn. Turn 2, your predator plays Madness Network; at the end of his minion phase you bleed your prey. -John Flournoy

Jeff Kuta

Carl Pilhatsch <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote in message news:<%Wahb.135246$qU6.2...@news.chello.at>... > > [ quoted text not captured ] Someone who started before you gets a vampire on their turn 1 and calls Regaining the Upper Hand and gives you the Edge (inexplicably). Someone gave you Parmenides on their first turn and you either bled or called RtUH, gaining and keeping (somehow) the Edge.

Carl Pilhatsch

[ quoted text not captured ] Nah, wait for the pleasure you get when next time you open a door... From then on, people will find your habit of opening doors more then once in a row without apparent reason - peculiar, at best. *smirk* Carl ;)

LSJ

Jeff Kuta wrote: > Someone gave you Parmenides on their first turn and you either bled or > called RtUH, gaining and keeping (somehow) the Edge. The "someone" that gave up Parmenides must have been your prey, so your first turn is already gone, barring quite a few more tricks like the Malkavian Dementia above. So, you don't get to act with Parmenides until your second turn, after untapping and not gaining the edge. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Slytherin

> ========================================================== > CONTEST > > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge. > Name two or more ways that this is possible. > > Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter. > > ========================================================== > SIGN OFF 1) Player 1 (not you) brings out a 1 cap vampire. You have your first turn Player 1 calls Regaining the Upper Hand naming you (for some v. strange reason, beware greeks bearing gifts I say). You gain a pool in your untap phase. Never again will this occur (if it ever did!) 2) You cheat Looking forward to my (un)lifetimes subscription. Fantastic Newsletter as always Wes. Andy "Slytherin" Brown VEKN Setite Ruler of Cambridge

Timlagor

Wes expounded: [ quoted text not captured ] Well when I first responded no one else ahd and i didn't want to spoil the fun. I am the 'other chap' you refer to elsewhere. Here are the methods I sent Wes. 1) Someone gives you the edge with Regaining the Upper Hand. I even thought of a reason: they brought out two vampires (using Info Highway presumably) in their first turn and use the other one to put out a Form of Corruption. (FoC & RtUH on their turn 2) 2) You and someone earlier bring out Malks in round 1 Round 2 they play Madness network and you use it to bleed at the end of your predator's turn. 2b) as (2) above but you don't play Malks and they Derange your vamp instead -this way you could be using Jazz Wentworth's special action or Sargon doing anything to get the edge which is more interesting that bleeding. So do I get all those points plus half shared with someone else then doubled for repeating my solution as previously given privately? I did read the rest of the newletter and even gave you a comment on it ;-D Matt Morgan's is definitely my favourite.

Mongrel Matt Hirsch

I see that Regaining the Upper Hand, Malk Dementia and Madness Network have already been posted... here's mine. You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde for 30, ousting himself. The judge allows this because Player 1 was an awful player who had no chance of getting any VP anyways, as his library consisted of 60 Secret Hordes and his crypt was actually just 12 photos of the judge's sister. Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows up, and then you control Parmenides. You bleed with Parm on your first turn, get the edge, no one else bleeds, and you have the edge at the start of your 2nd untap phase. -Matt (Note: if the example requires that all players must have legal decks, replace Player 1's crypt with 12 copies of Patrizia Giovanni.)

John P

"Mongrel Matt Hirsch" <mon...@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:683c6519.03100...@posting.google.com... > I see that Regaining the Upper Hand, Malk Dementia and Madness Network > have already been posted... here's mine. > > You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde > for 30, ousting himself. The judge allows this because Player 1 was > an awful player who had no chance of getting any VP anyways, as his > library consisted of 60 Secret Hordes and his crypt was actually just > 12 photos of the judge's sister. Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on > Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows up, and then you control > Parmenides. You bleed with Parm on your first turn, get the edge, no > one else bleeds, and you have the edge at the start of your 2nd untap > phase. I think if player 2 uses a Tomb of Ramses on Parmenides on turn 1, then the arguement that player 1 had no chance at a VP may have been flawed. ;) Better off with an info highway. But nice job on the idea, I was trying to figure out something with Parmenides, but could't figure out how the player in question would get him on thier first turn (player 1 going poof never crossed my very narrow field of vision) -JTP

Janne Hägglund

mon...@hotpop.com (Mongrel Matt Hirsch) writes: > You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde > for 30, ousting himself. Wow! Congratulations. I racked my brain for at least an hour trying to find a way to bring Parmenides out on turn 1, with just one transfer and one master phase action - and gave up. > The judge allows this because Player 1 was an awful player who had no > chance of getting any VP anyways, We don't need no steenkin' judges! Who says it has to be a tournament? Or perhaps Player 1 received a phone call saying his house is on fire... > Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows > up, and then you control Parmenides. A logical alternative: Player 2 plays Info Highway instead of Tomb, making him look even more smarter in comparison to Player 1. :-) -- hg@ It's better to open your mouth and appear stupid, iki.fi than to hold it shut and keep thinking you know it all.

Timlagor

John P expounded: [ quoted text not captured ] You could fit him into Matt Morgan's convoluted Reversal of Fortunes scheme as well.

Wes

"Timlagor" <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote > > Well when I first responded no one else ahd and i didn't want to spoil > the fun. I am the 'other chap' you refer to elsewhere. Actually, you're not that person... I didn't receive anything from you. Unless Yahoo has deferred it for 48 hours or something. > So do I get all those points plus half shared with someone else then > doubled for repeating my solution as previously given privately? > > I did read the rest of the newletter and even gave you a comment on it > ;-D Well hopefully the comment was a good one. I guess I'll never know :) Unfortunately, I am forced to give you -OO (neg infinity) points for giving the same answers after everyone else did (as far as I can tell). Maybe next time... Cheers, WES

Wes

"Matthew T. Morgan" <far...@fnord.io.com> wrote > > Player 1: Transfer 1 pool and discard. > Player 2: Play Succubus Club and transfer out Krid. > Player 3: Transfer out Normal. > Player 4: Malkavian Dementia on Normal. Normal calls Reversal of > Fortunes. Passes 1-0. > Player 3: Transfer some pool. > Player 2: Tap Succubus Club to trade Krid to player 5 (me). > Player 1: Transfer some pool. > Player 5: Bleed for 1 with Krid. > Player 4: Transfer out Zoė. > Player 3: Bleed for 1 with Normal (Telepathic Counter by Zoė). > Player 2: Influence out somebody. > Player 1: Influence out somebody. > Player 5: Gain 1 pool for holding the edge on turn 2! Matt gets a GAZILLION points for this one. I'm going to assume it works because I am too messed up on cough medicine right now to even calculate it. Cheers, WES

Wes

"Slytherin" <an...@operamail.com> wrote > > 1) > Player 1 (not you) brings out a 1 cap vampire. > You have your first turn > > Player 1 calls Regaining the Upper Hand naming you (for some v. > strange reason, > beware greeks bearing gifts I say). > > You gain a pool in your untap phase. > > Never again will this occur (if it ever did!) Correct! > 2) > You cheat Also correct! I did not specify that you had to follow the rules of the game. Sometimes that Edge ends up where it shouldn't be. That's why cigarette lighters and salt shakers do not a good Edge make. It obviously gives smokers and high blood pressure type people an advantage over more honest players. > Looking forward to my (un)lifetimes subscription. Fantastic Newsletter > as always Wes. Well thank you! For this I grant you ALL THE POINTS IN THE WORLD plus 1. You also gave TWO solutions so you may have your lifetime subscription. As long as I continue to write them and you continue to frequent this newsgroup, your inbox (or whatever) will floweth over. Thanks for playing. Cheers, WES

Wes

"Mongrel Matt Hirsch" <mon...@hotpop.com> wrote > > You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde > for 30, ousting himself. The judge allows this because Player 1 was > an awful player who had no chance of getting any VP anyways, as his > library consisted of 60 Secret Hordes and his crypt was actually just > 12 photos of the judge's sister. Hmmm... sounds like he was a Detroit player. > Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on > Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows up, and then you control > Parmenides. You bleed with Parm on your first turn, get the edge, no > one else bleeds, and you have the edge at the start of your 2nd untap > phase. Very nice! And since I have actually met you and played with you, I declare you to be the grand prize winner of this contest. Now please get rid of those 12 photos of my sister. Cheers, WES

Kamel SENNI

"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message news:<bm3ro...@enews1.newsguy.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Too bad... I have posted ten minutes after reading the post, grmbll... perhaps i have to go to my office earlier... I love that type of contest : it makes you more addictive to your job, because you have to get up with the sun, if you want to win lol. My cigarettes are from virginia, my coca cola are from US (but made in ..somewhere in asia lol), my jeans are from US, the three lasts movies i've seen came from hollywood, and you think that i support french canadians ? Never ! (but i can pass to their cause, if they assure me a life subscrition to... anything ? lol) Kisses to Quebec, a beautiful state, with the most important kind inhabitants who speaks french (due to the legendary bad mood of french people lol). Kamel SENNI.

Rubbe

Probably too late for a price but anyway : first round: Player 3 plays Succebus Club and brings out Lalitha. (It IS a FOS newsletter after all !) Player 4 Zillah's Valley and pops Anson I'm 5th and put 4 on Fatima < start making all sorts of comments on what Fatima will do to, how she will do it to poor Anson.> Second Round: Player 3 give her Lalitha superior serpentis (Lalitha should have it anyway) and she plays an edge Vitiation. Player 4 with Anson restructures the table (rightfully fearing Fatima and all her dark fantasies), he puts player 3 and 2 as his prey, keeps player 1 in his back, so he is as far away from Fatima as possible. Player 2 is next, because he is now in front of Anson. He sees Player 3 (his prey) with a vampire, and me nr 5 as his grandprey without any vampire. He gladly trades me his edge vitiation. Player 3 bleeds me, but with edge vitiation I get the edge. It's my second turn, I have the edge and collect my 1 pool. Settites rule! Rubbe.

Wes

"Rubbe" <ru...@pandora.Be> wrote [ quoted text not captured ] Nice! You get a no-prize! Cheers, WES