FOLLOWERS OF SET NEWSLETTER
Volume 3, Issue 7
October 2003
Author: Andrew 'Wes' Weston
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Introduction
Fiction
Deck Construction - Dealing with unknowns
Card Analysis - Dismemberment of Osiris
Contest
Sign Off
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INTRODUCTION
Welcome to the October installment of the Followers of Set newsletter.
If you are not a worshiper of our Dark Lord, then please stop reading
now. These newsletters are not for infidels. If however you are
interested in attending one of our services, we have open houses at the
Temple every Saturday (noon for mortals, midnight for immortals). No
children under the age of twelve please.
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FICTION
It is surprising how foolish some of these immortals are. Despite the
promise of eternal life (if you concede that this constitutes "living")
the same old prejudices rear their ugly heads again and again. Racism,
classism, sexism... you would think that such concepts would disappear
after one becomes undead. Instead, we are cursed with a new "ism", that
of clannism. And ageism becomes much more tedious when you remain young
eternally. I am... much older than I appear.
As you know, I was known in the sixties as a popular screen actor; a
fact which has both helped and hindered my new career as a vampire. Many
an attractive young fan seeking autographs has instead had the honour of
coming backstage for a little bit of fun. More fun for me I might add,
since they rarely leave my dressing room with more blood than they
entered with. Suffice to say, a little bit of fame goes a long way when
one is constantly hungering for blood. I pity the poor kindred who stalk
the streets like common muggers. It must be a very dreary existence.
The downside of fame of course is that people *know who you are*. The
tabloids claim that I am no longer starring in films because of my bad
attitude on the set and an addiction to opiates. That bad attitude was
always part of the act, I should add. The opiates were real however...
and still are.
No, the truth is that I would love to continue acting on film, but my
clan's unfortunate flaw often gets in the way. Some of my more religious
brethren claim this aversion to bright lights is a blessing from Set. A
blessing?!? No, I'd much rather have an affliction like the lucky
Ventrue have. It's not like I wasn't being picky about my meals already.
But once again, I digress.
When people know who you are, they constantly ask questions. Questions
can be... inconvenient, especially when one is living such a big lie. I
suppose all undead must go through this, but none seem to have such a
hard time of it as I do. "Why do you only perform on stage these days,
Hannibal", they ask me. The women all want to know how I can look so
young. The 'rejuvenating cream' excuse is getting rather old, if you
will pardon the pun.
Being known as an actor has helped me in the world of immortals also.
It's funny how many kindred assume that you are a Toreador because you
were an 'artist' as a mortal. I've found I can encourage this belief
with the occasional stare into space when I see a particularly beautiful
piece by an up-and-coming artist. Truth be told, most art bores me
immensely. However, not being known as a Follower of Set is very
convenient.
Yes, even in undeath, vampires have silly prejudices against our clan.
Of course, so do I, since the majority of Setites act like they were
Hare Krishnas with fangs. Pathetic really. And this fascination with
corruption? Please.
And so I have become a Toreador, in all ways that matter. The so called
"artistes" are seen favourably (more or less) by the other clans and
this allows me to deal with vampire society without having to also deal
with the unfortunate attitudes towards my true clan.
So you see... I never stopped acting. In fact, I am acting right now. As
we speak. I hope this answers your questions, young lady. I will assume
it does since you appear to be paralyzed at the moment. It's the eyes,
you see. Comes with the clan. Now... what blood type did you say you
were?
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DECK CONSTRUCTION -- Dealing with unknowns
"No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy"
--Military maxim
I have always been a proponent of building a focused deck. I find that
focus, and the speed that comes with it, is far more effective than the
versatility of a toolboxy deck.
Of late however, I have found that this only goes so far. Once your
opponents know what your deck does, they can more easily shut it down by
applying pressure in the right areas. I sometimes find myself stuck in
neutral with nothing to do. A vote deck faces an intercept prey. A
combat deck faces a fortitude prey. Often these situations are
unavoidable but sometimes adding a bit of diversity to a deck will allow
you to do something other than sit on your hands and wait to be ousted.
If your deck is a simple sneak bleeder for example, you'll obviously
want a lot of bleed cards and a lot of stealth cards (and a bucket for
people to throw up in of course). If all your deck has in it are bleed
and stealth cards, then your deck is focused, yes... but it is also
boring and easy to shut down. Anti-combat cards will help obviously, as
will some intercept. Of course, the more you add, the less focused your
deck becomes. But sometimes, sacrificing a little bit of focus can give
you an edge in ways that will later become a major benefit. Do you often
catch yourself saying "Damn! I wish I had included (such and such power
card) in this deck"?
Of course, the Hunting Ground that would have helped in one game would
be completely useless in another game. It all depends who you sit down
next to and what they are playing.
When dealing with so many unknowns, what can we do?
When we have a hard time going forward, what can we do?
It's at times like these that I find it beneficial to make deals with
other Methuselahs and encourage random chaos in the rest of the table.
If my prey is getting too strong, I turn the table against him. Some
people can encourage this kind of behaviour with nothing more than a
silver tongue. I find that having a few things to offer them makes the
deal a lot sweeter.
So I have taken to adding a few "permanents" to many of my decks to give
me an edge in deal-making.
Adding one of the intercept locations not only gives you the potential
to block unwanted actions, it also gives you the potential to make
deals. You would be surprised how often your predator will leave you
alone if you provide her with a little intercept for one turn. Even if
it's for only one turn, that's a lot of pressure taken off of you.
When you choose a card to put in your deck, see if there is a similar
card that can be used more generally. For example, Morgue Hunting Ground
will help you give blood to your vampires, but Leonardo the Mortician
will let you give blood to *other vampires* across the table. While this
may seem like a piddly thing to offer, there are generally vampires that
need blood and their Methuselahs may appreciate it. They may appreciate
it enough to offer you something you need in return.
Powerbase: Montreal and High Museum of Art, Atlanta are two cards that
are generally associated with intercept decks. Since they are able to be
stolen by other Methuselahs, decks tend to provide some kind of defense
against this. But the other aspect that people often forget about these
cards is that they can give other people pool and consequently they can
keep them from being ousted.
I often "allow" another Methuselah to steal Powerbase: Montreal to give
themselves some pool gain. If I think I will be wanting it back, I make
it known when the offer is made. Nine times out of ten, people don't
mind sharing it. Usually I try this with my predator. Even the action to
take my Powerbase is one less bleed or hostile vote, etc. It has often
been said that the perfect predator has no minions and lots of pool.
With this idea, you are basically tapping one of their minions and
giving them some pool. It may be just a temporary reprieve, but you
never know when you will need it.
My favourite card for deal-making is still the Rumour Mill, Tabloid
Newspaper. For more information about how I use this card, please see
the August 2002 issue of this newsletter.
http://www.mnsi.net/~ghost/jyhad/vol3iss3.htm
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CARD ANALYSIS -- Dismemberment of Osiris
http://monger.vekn.org/showcard.html?ID=1049
Dismemberment of Osiris
Serpentis
Action
1 Blood
[ser] (D) Burn a titled vampire in torpor. This does not constitute
diablerie. Each ready vampire of the same clan as the titled vampire
burns 1 blood.
[SER] As above, and the controller of the titled vampire burns 1 pool.
This is one of those "rare" cards that I somehow ended up with a lot of.
Unfortunately, it is not a great card.
Burning a titled vampire sounds pretty good on paper. The problem is
that Followers of Set are not that great at putting vampires in torpor
in the first place.
Neither OBF, PRE or SER are particularly great combat disciplines.
Obfuscate has Disguised Weapon, but relying on this card, plus a weapon
to torpor with, and then hoping we happen to hit a titled vampire with
the weapon and then having Dismemberment of Osiris in our hand at the
perfect time. Suffice to say, the deck built around this prayer combo
already sounds like a bit of a joke.
Serpentis by all rights *should* be a combat discipline, at least if you
compare it to the way the discipline works in the pen-and-paper game of
Vampire: the Masquerade. But as things stand, Setites are better at
avoiding combats than we are at winning them.
Amam the Devourer seems like one of the few ways that Setites have of
sending vampires to torpor. Since he does 2 damage, a rush against an
empty or anemic vampire might achieve the desired effect. But Amam also
has another ability; he can burn vampires in torpor. So Dismemberment of
Osiris starts to seem a little redundant.
Speaking of this card's redundancy, if we really wanted to burn vampires
in torpor, it seems to me that a better way to do it would be to use
Samat Ramal-Ra, who can diablerize with impunity. This way we not only
burn the vampire, we gain whatever blood or equipment it has on it, and
possibly gain a discipline card out of the deal.
Of course, other vampires outside of the Setites have Serpentis. (Don't
ask me how. We are currently investigating this discrepancy and traitors
will be dealt with harshly!). Other clans, notably the Gangrel heathens
of Mirembe and Nadima might find it easier to use this card since they
are already built for combat. Aziz of the Assamites is another
possibility. But frankly, the more I try to find ways to use this card,
the less useful it seems.
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CONTEST
It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge.
Name two or more ways that this is possible.
Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter.
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SIGN OFF
I hope you have enjoyed this most recent installment of the Followers of
Set newsletter. As always, questions and comments are appreciated.
Cheers,
WES
>
> ==========================================================
> CONTEST
>
> It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge.
> Name two or more ways that this is possible.
>
> Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter.
>
Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer Hacking.
Easy and amusing. :)
Carl
Carl Pilhatsch wrote:
>> It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge.
>> Name two or more ways that this is possible.
>>
>> Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter.
Must play then! :)
> Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer
> Hacking.
Turn one: play Malkavian Dementia to take control of that weeny Malk who
just showed up. Bleed.
For 5. ;p
--
Francois
BART BUCKS, ARE NOT LEGAL TENDER
Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 8F06
"Timlagor" <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> >
> > Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer
Hacking.
>
> I missed that one. There are at least two others (much leass easy).
Care to share them with the rest of the class?
Cheers,
WES
"Carl Pilhatsch" <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote
> >
> > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the
Edge.
> > Name two or more ways that this is possible.
> >
> > Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this
newsletter.
> >
>
> Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer
Hacking.
>
> Easy and amusing. :)
I will give you ONE point for a correct answer, but you lose ONE point
for only answering half the question :)
There is one other way that I know of. Maybe more that I don't know
of...
Cheers,
WES
[...]
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> CONTEST
>
> It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge.
> Name two or more ways that this is possible.
1. Your predator has brought out Igo, The Hungry (for instance) and calls
a Regaining the Upper hand, giving you the edge.
Name: Regaining the Upper Hand
[Jyhad:C, VTES:C, Sabbat:C]
Cardtype: Political Action
Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth.
Choose a Methuselah. Successful {referendum} means the chosen Methuselah gets
the Edge.
2. On your first turn, you bring out Ohanna. Before your untap phase (i.e., on
your
predator's turn), your predator plays a Madness Network (since he or she
controls Normal).
At the end of his or her minion phase you bleed with Ohanna and get the edge.
Name: Madness Network
[Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R]
Cardtype: Master
Clan: Malkavian
Unique master.
Put this card in play. After another Methuselah has finished all of his or her
minion phase actions, any untapped Malkavians (going clockwise) can take
actions.
Any minion can burn this card as an action that any untapped Malkavian (in
addition
to the normally eligible blockers) can attempt to block (go clockwise if 2 or
more
want to block).
Greetings,
Damnans
"Francois Gombault" <gombault...@BROKEN.ADDRESS.wanadoo.fr> wrote
>
> Turn one: play Malkavian Dementia to take control of that weeny Malk
who
> just showed up. Bleed.
> For 5. ;p
Errrr.... looks like there are at least three or more ways to do this
apparently.
Francois gets 73.8 points for thinking of one that I missed. There are
probably even more knowing my dumb luck. Oh well, there's still at least
one that nobody's mentioned yet.
At least this is more fun than analyzing a FoS deck, right?
Cheers,
WES
"Damnans" <damna...@ono.com> wrote
>
> 1. Your predator has brought out Igo, The Hungry (for instance) and
calls
> a Regaining the Upper hand, giving you the edge.
You get something for this one, though someone already mentioned it in a
private email. This was in fact was the other solution I had thought of.
So for this answer I give you 6017 points, which you will have to split
evenly with the other guy who got it right (who apparently wants to be
secretive about it :)
> 2. On your first turn, you bring out Ohanna. Before your untap phase
(i.e., on
> your
> predator's turn), your predator plays a Madness Network (since he or
she
> controls Normal).
> At the end of his or her minion phase you bleed with Ohanna and get
the edge.
Nice! (Of course, it's possible you could be blocked. And Ohanna only
has dom :)
Yet another solution I hadn't thought of. Maybe someone else should be
thinking of these contests. I am obviously not imaginative enough heheh.
For this solution I will give you PI points, to the infinite decimal
point. That should keep you occupied for a while.
Did anyone read the *rest* of my friggin' newsletter? *sigh* :)
Cheers,
WES
"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message
news:bm3ho...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>
> "Francois Gombault" <gombault...@BROKEN.ADDRESS.wanadoo.fr> wrote
> >
> > Turn one: play Malkavian Dementia to take control of that weeny Malk
> who
> > just showed up. Bleed.
> > For 5. ;p
>
> Errrr.... looks like there are at least three or more ways to do this
> apparently.
hahahaha :)
Stooooopid ! don't send puzzles on the forum unless you're sure of what tha
answers are !! =D
"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote
By the way, there is still at least *one more* that has not been mentioned.
I was sent a very convoluted solution by email that does qualify. If anyone
guesses it here on the newsgroup I will *double* your point total!
Cheers,
WES
"Reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> hahahaha :)
> Stooooopid ! don't send puzzles on the forum unless you're sure of what
tha
> answers are !! =D
Yeah, same thing happened with my last contest.
Who knew so many vampires were based on real people?
Some of them should sue!
Cheers,
WES
"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message
news:bm3mq...@enews1.newsguy.com...
[ quoted text not captured ]
isn't it the greatest honor here to have one's face printed on a v:tes card
?? ;D
[ quoted text not captured ]
Do I have to remind you that there exists a couple of photographs,
showing you in some.. dubious action...?
You wouldn't want *someone* to hand them to the pres, would you...?
*knowing smile* ;)
Now, as I have answered your question - there is no denying the facts,
is there? - you should keep your end of the bargain. Honestly, if you
were in my position, you'd appreciate if I were true to the deal, I'm
sure of that.
Now, where were we...
:)
Ok, ok. But the question was really answered - bleed, get the edge, next
turn get one pool. End of exercise.
Carl
Carl Pilhatsch <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote in message news:<%Wahb.135246$qU6.2...@news.chello.at>...
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > CONTEST> >
> > It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge.
> > Name two or more ways that this is possible.
> >
> > Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter.
> >
>
> Turn one: play Jake Washington. Jake goes for a bleed with Computer Hacking.
>
> Easy and amusing. :)
>> Carl
Malkavian dementia on normal turn one. Bleed with him.
Turn two get the edge.
Kamel SENNI
"Reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> isn't it the greatest honor here to have one's face printed on a v:tes
card
> ?? ;D
Not what I meant. Read the contest from my last newsletter:
http://www.mnsi.net/~ghost/jyhad/vol3iss6.htm
Unfortunately, I don't seem to have a copy of the answers I got for that
contest. Might be on my work machine. Anyway, there was something like 6 or
7 vampires based on historical figures. A lot more than the three I thought
of.
Cheers,
WES
P.S. If my face *was* on a vampire card, that card could be crap and people
would still pay $40 a pop on Ebay for it!
"Carl Pilhatsch" <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote
>
> Do I have to remind you that there exists a couple of photographs,
> showing you in some.. dubious action...?
> You wouldn't want *someone* to hand them to the pres, would you...?
> *knowing smile* ;)
Carl, the last time you threatened me with photographs, one of them ended up
as the new Camarilla version of Gird Minions (though I am slightly
off-camera in that version thankfully).
So I believe your threat... have your dang points! Gah!
> Now, as I have answered your question - there is no denying the facts,
> is there? - you should keep your end of the bargain. Honestly, if you
> were in my position, you'd appreciate if I were true to the deal, I'm
> sure of that.
> Now, where were we...
Ok, I hereby declare that Carl has *triple* the points I previously gave
him. Sorry for the misunderstanding, sir. It won't happen again.
Cheers,
WES
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Wes wrote:
> ==========================================================
> CONTEST
>
> It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge.
> Name two or more ways that this is possible.
Here's my contribution. I think you'll find it to be far stupider than
any of the other answers.
5 player table. I am player 5.
Player 1: Transfer 1 pool and discard.
Player 2: Play Succubus Club and transfer out Krid.
Player 3: Transfer out Normal.
Player 4: Malkavian Dementia on Normal. Normal calls Reversal of
Fortunes. Passes 1-0.
Player 3: Transfer some pool.
Player 2: Tap Succubus Club to trade Krid to player 5 (me).
Player 1: Transfer some pool.
Player 5: Bleed for 1 with Krid.
Player 4: Transfer out Zoė.
Player 3: Bleed for 1 with Normal (Telepathic Counter by Zoė).
Player 2: Influence out somebody.
Player 1: Influence out somebody.
Player 5: Gain 1 pool for holding the edge on turn 2!
Matt Morgan
A lot of my games are like that. Honest.
"Kamel SENNI" <kamel...@yvelines.pref.gouv.fr> wrote
>
> Malkavian dementia on normal turn one. Bleed with him.
> Turn two get the edge.
> Kamel SENNI
You are correct!
...but about two hours too late. Someone already mentioned this one (more or
less) before you.
And also you appear to be French, and since your country did not support
Canada in our recent war against the French Canadians... errr... Freedom
Canadians, I am forced to deduct even more points from your score.
No points for you!
Cheers,
WES
(A *just kidding* disclaimer here, lest the hordes of V:tES-playing
Quebecois take this post at all seriously...)
Carl Pilhatsch <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote in message news:<%Wahb.135246$qU6.2...@news.chello.at>...
> >[ quoted text not captured ]
Method 2: Turn one, your predator influences out a small Malkavian,
and so do you in turn. Turn 2, your predator plays Madness Network; at
the end of his minion phase you bleed your prey.
-John Flournoy
Carl Pilhatsch <car.pi...@chello.at> wrote in message news:<%Wahb.135246$qU6.2...@news.chello.at>...
> >[ quoted text not captured ]
Someone who started before you gets a vampire on their turn 1 and
calls Regaining the Upper Hand and gives you the Edge (inexplicably).
Someone gave you Parmenides on their first turn and you either bled or
called RtUH, gaining and keeping (somehow) the Edge.
[ quoted text not captured ]
Nah, wait for the pleasure you get when next time you open a door...
From then on, people will find your habit of opening doors more then
once in a row without apparent reason - peculiar, at best.
*smirk*
Carl
;)
Jeff Kuta wrote:
> Someone gave you Parmenides on their first turn and you either bled or
> called RtUH, gaining and keeping (somehow) the Edge.
The "someone" that gave up Parmenides must have been your prey, so
your first turn is already gone, barring quite a few more tricks like
the Malkavian Dementia above.
So, you don't get to act with Parmenides until your second turn, after
untapping and not gaining the edge.
--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
> ==========================================================
> CONTEST
>
> It is the untap phase of my second turn and I gain a pool for the Edge.
> Name two or more ways that this is possible.
>
> Winners will receive a free lifetime subscription to this newsletter.
>
> ==========================================================
> SIGN OFF
1)
Player 1 (not you) brings out a 1 cap vampire.
You have your first turn
Player 1 calls Regaining the Upper Hand naming you (for some v.
strange reason,
beware greeks bearing gifts I say).
You gain a pool in your untap phase.
Never again will this occur (if it ever did!)
2)
You cheat
Looking forward to my (un)lifetimes subscription. Fantastic Newsletter
as always Wes.
Andy "Slytherin" Brown
VEKN Setite Ruler of Cambridge
Wes expounded:
[ quoted text not captured ]
Well when I first responded no one else ahd and i didn't want to spoil
the fun. I am the 'other chap' you refer to elsewhere.
Here are the methods I sent Wes.
1) Someone gives you the edge with Regaining the Upper Hand.
I even thought of a reason: they brought out two vampires (using Info
Highway presumably) in their first turn and use the other one to put out
a Form of Corruption. (FoC & RtUH on their turn 2)
2) You and someone earlier bring out Malks in round 1
Round 2 they play Madness network and you use it to bleed at the end of
your predator's turn.
2b) as (2) above but you don't play Malks and they Derange your vamp
instead -this way you could be using Jazz Wentworth's special action or
Sargon doing anything to get the edge which is more interesting that
bleeding.
So do I get all those points plus half shared with someone else then
doubled for repeating my solution as previously given privately?
I did read the rest of the newletter and even gave you a comment on it
;-D
Matt Morgan's is definitely my favourite.
I see that Regaining the Upper Hand, Malk Dementia and Madness Network
have already been posted... here's mine.
You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde
for 30, ousting himself. The judge allows this because Player 1 was
an awful player who had no chance of getting any VP anyways, as his
library consisted of 60 Secret Hordes and his crypt was actually just
12 photos of the judge's sister. Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on
Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows up, and then you control
Parmenides. You bleed with Parm on your first turn, get the edge, no
one else bleeds, and you have the edge at the start of your 2nd untap
phase.
-Matt
(Note: if the example requires that all players must have legal
decks, replace Player 1's crypt with 12 copies of Patrizia Giovanni.)
"Mongrel Matt Hirsch" <mon...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:683c6519.03100...@posting.google.com...
> I see that Regaining the Upper Hand, Malk Dementia and Madness Network
> have already been posted... here's mine.
>
> You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde
> for 30, ousting himself. The judge allows this because Player 1 was
> an awful player who had no chance of getting any VP anyways, as his
> library consisted of 60 Secret Hordes and his crypt was actually just
> 12 photos of the judge's sister. Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on
> Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows up, and then you control
> Parmenides. You bleed with Parm on your first turn, get the edge, no
> one else bleeds, and you have the edge at the start of your 2nd untap
> phase.
I think if player 2 uses a Tomb of Ramses on Parmenides on turn 1, then the
arguement that player 1 had no chance at a VP may have been flawed. ;)
Better off with an info highway.
But nice job on the idea, I was trying to figure out something with Parmenides,
but could't figure out how the player in question would get him on thier first
turn (player 1 going poof never crossed my very narrow field of vision)
-JTP
mon...@hotpop.com (Mongrel Matt Hirsch) writes:
> You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde
> for 30, ousting himself.
Wow! Congratulations. I racked my brain for at least an hour trying to
find a way to bring Parmenides out on turn 1, with just one transfer and one
master phase action - and gave up.
> The judge allows this because Player 1 was an awful player who had no
> chance of getting any VP anyways,
We don't need no steenkin' judges! Who says it has to be a tournament?
Or perhaps Player 1 received a phone call saying his house is on fire...
> Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows
> up, and then you control Parmenides.
A logical alternative: Player 2 plays Info Highway instead of Tomb, making
him look even more smarter in comparison to Player 1. :-)
--
hg@ It's better to open your mouth and appear stupid,
iki.fi than to hold it shut and keep thinking you know it all.
"Timlagor" <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>
> Well when I first responded no one else ahd and i didn't want to spoil
> the fun. I am the 'other chap' you refer to elsewhere.
Actually, you're not that person... I didn't receive anything from you.
Unless Yahoo has deferred it for 48 hours or something.
> So do I get all those points plus half shared with someone else then
> doubled for repeating my solution as previously given privately?
>
> I did read the rest of the newletter and even gave you a comment on it
> ;-D
Well hopefully the comment was a good one. I guess I'll never know :)
Unfortunately, I am forced to give you -OO (neg infinity) points for
giving the same answers after everyone else did (as far as I can tell).
Maybe next time...
Cheers,
WES
"Matthew T. Morgan" <far...@fnord.io.com> wrote
>
> Player 1: Transfer 1 pool and discard.
> Player 2: Play Succubus Club and transfer out Krid.
> Player 3: Transfer out Normal.
> Player 4: Malkavian Dementia on Normal. Normal calls Reversal of
> Fortunes. Passes 1-0.
> Player 3: Transfer some pool.
> Player 2: Tap Succubus Club to trade Krid to player 5 (me).
> Player 1: Transfer some pool.
> Player 5: Bleed for 1 with Krid.
> Player 4: Transfer out Zoė.
> Player 3: Bleed for 1 with Normal (Telepathic Counter by Zoė).
> Player 2: Influence out somebody.
> Player 1: Influence out somebody.
> Player 5: Gain 1 pool for holding the edge on turn 2!
Matt gets a GAZILLION points for this one. I'm going to assume it works
because I am too messed up on cough medicine right now to even calculate
it.
Cheers,
WES
"Slytherin" <an...@operamail.com> wrote
>
> 1)
> Player 1 (not you) brings out a 1 cap vampire.
> You have your first turn
>
> Player 1 calls Regaining the Upper Hand naming you (for some v.
> strange reason,
> beware greeks bearing gifts I say).
>
> You gain a pool in your untap phase.
>
> Never again will this occur (if it ever did!)
Correct!
> 2)
> You cheat
Also correct! I did not specify that you had to follow the rules of the
game. Sometimes that Edge ends up where it shouldn't be. That's why
cigarette lighters and salt shakers do not a good Edge make. It
obviously gives smokers and high blood pressure type people an advantage
over more honest players.
> Looking forward to my (un)lifetimes subscription. Fantastic Newsletter
> as always Wes.
Well thank you! For this I grant you ALL THE POINTS IN THE WORLD plus 1.
You also gave TWO solutions so you may have your lifetime subscription.
As long as I continue to write them and you continue to frequent this
newsgroup, your inbox (or whatever) will floweth over.
Thanks for playing.
Cheers,
WES
"Mongrel Matt Hirsch" <mon...@hotpop.com> wrote
>> You are seated 5th at a 5-player table. Player 1 plays Secret Horde
> for 30, ousting himself. The judge allows this because Player 1 was
> an awful player who had no chance of getting any VP anyways, as his
> library consisted of 60 Secret Hordes and his crypt was actually just
> 12 photos of the judge's sister.
Hmmm... sounds like he was a Detroit player.
> Player 2 plays Tomb of Ramses on
> Parmenides, makes 2 transfers, Tomb blows up, and then you control
> Parmenides. You bleed with Parm on your first turn, get the edge, no
> one else bleeds, and you have the edge at the start of your 2nd untap
> phase.
Very nice!
And since I have actually met you and played with you, I declare you to
be the grand prize winner of this contest.
Now please get rid of those 12 photos of my sister.
Cheers,
WES
"Wes" <gh...@NYETSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message news:<bm3ro...@enews1.newsguy.com>...
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Too bad... I have posted ten minutes after reading the post, grmbll...
perhaps i have to go to my office earlier...
I love that type of contest : it makes you more addictive to your job,
because you have to get up with the sun, if you want to win lol.
My cigarettes are from virginia, my coca cola are from US (but made in
..somewhere in asia lol), my jeans are from US, the three lasts movies
i've seen came from hollywood, and you think that i support french
canadians ?
Never ! (but i can pass to their cause, if they assure me a life
subscrition to... anything ? lol)
Kisses to Quebec, a beautiful state, with the most important kind
inhabitants who speaks french (due to the legendary bad mood of french
people lol).
Kamel SENNI.
Probably too late for a price but anyway :
first round:
Player 3 plays Succebus Club and brings out Lalitha. (It IS a FOS
newsletter after all !)
Player 4 Zillah's Valley and pops Anson
I'm 5th and put 4 on Fatima < start making all sorts of comments on
what Fatima will do to, how she will do it to poor Anson.>
Second Round:
Player 3 give her Lalitha superior serpentis (Lalitha should have it
anyway) and she plays an edge Vitiation.
Player 4 with Anson restructures the table (rightfully fearing Fatima
and all her dark fantasies), he puts player 3 and 2 as his prey, keeps
player 1 in his back, so he is as far away from Fatima as possible.
Player 2 is next, because he is now in front of Anson.
He sees Player 3 (his prey) with a vampire, and me nr 5 as his
grandprey without any vampire. He gladly trades me his edge vitiation.
Player 3 bleeds me, but with edge vitiation I get the edge.
It's my second turn, I have the edge and collect my 1 pool.
Settites rule!
Rubbe.