Guard Dogs and Rats!

Got into a bit of a heated discussion over these cards. You would think they are too simple to argue over but it happened. Question: Vampire A bleeds Vampire B (tapped) plays GDs or RW untaps Vampire B plays Deflection at SUP Does Vampire B remain untapped or does Vampire B return to a tapped state. I argues that he remains untapped. I won the arguement, but only cause the loser deigned to have the question put to the VTES world. Raille -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading

rai...@mich.com wrote: > > Got into a bit of a heated discussion over these cards. You would think they > are too simple to argue over but it happened. > > Question: > Vampire A bleeds > Vampire B (tapped) plays GDs or RW untaps > Vampire B plays Deflection at SUP > Does Vampire B remain untapped or does Vampire B return to a tapped state. > > I argues that he remains untapped. I won the arguement, but only cause the > loser deigned to have the question put to the VTES world. > Vampire B remains untapped. GDs and Rats physically untap the reacting vamp and unless the vampire blocks or does something else that will make it tap (say, block or play deflection at inferior) it will stay untapped. -- Robert Goudie, Chairman rrgo...@earthlink.net Vampire: Elder Kindred Network madnessnetwork.hexagon.net ________________________________________________________________ The Official Vampire: the Eternal Struggle Players' Organization

In article <6hcnes$gvk$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, rai...@mich.com wrote: > > Got into a bit of a heated discussion over these cards. You would think they > are too simple to argue over but it happened. > > Question: > Vampire A bleeds > Vampire B (tapped) plays GDs or RW untaps > Vampire B plays Deflection at SUP > Does Vampire B remain untapped or does Vampire B return to a tapped state. He remains untapped (what causes confusion here? the cards are clear). -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <6hfkao$vp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1, vte...@wizards.com (LSJ) wrote: > > In article <6hcnes$gvk$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, > rai...@mich.com wrote: > > > > Got into a bit of a heated discussion over these cards. You would think > they > > are too simple to argue over but it happened. > > > > Question: > > Vampire A bleeds > > Vampire B (tapped) plays GDs or RW untaps > > Vampire B plays Deflection at SUP > > Does Vampire B remain untapped or does Vampire B return to a tapped state. > > He remains untapped (what causes confusion here? the cards are clear). > > -- > L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) > Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. > (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team > I Had no confusion, but a player complained with the usual "We never did it that way before" line, and asked for an Official ruling, soo.. Raille [ quoted text not captured ]