rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

LSJ- Roll and Raptor

4 messages from 4 participants · 27 March 2008 – 28 March 2008
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XZealot

LSJ, Roll Type: Combat Requires: Flight Do not replace until after combat. [FLIGHT] Maneuver. A minion may play only one Roll each round. If this minion is still ready when you would draw to replace this card, you may move this card from your ash heap to your hand instead. Raptor Type: Retainer Requires: Animalism Cost: 2 blood Animal with 1 life. [ani] The minion with this retainer gets +1 intercept. [ANI] As above, and when the minion with this retainer is in combat, the opposing minion's controller gets -1 hand size. Roll states that "If this minion is still ready when you would draw to replace this car, you may move this card from your ashheap to your hand as normal" and Raptor makes your hand size -1 for combat, which means that you draw up to replace your cards at the end of combat. Card text would indicate that you could redraw your Roll from your ashheap at the end of combat to replace the Roll that you discarded because of the Raptor effect. Is this true? Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr XZealot Archon of the Swamp

ira...@gmail.com

On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: > Card text would indicate that you could redraw your Roll from your > ashheap at the end of combat to replace the Roll that you discarded > because of the Raptor effect. Is this true? The rules of the game indicate that you don't apply card text for cards that you discard due to hand size reduction (or random discard effects, either, like Masque of Judas.) The text on Roll only triggers when you play it as a combat card. IANLSJ, but I feel pretty certain about my answer. Ira

Thrall of Arika

On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] I would have to say no. You didn't actually play Roll, so it's card text isn't in effect. Plus you are not replacing any cards lost due to smaller hand sizes when your hand size then becomes larger again, you are merely drawing up to your hand size. Chris, Thrall of Arika

LSJ

ira...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: >> Card text would indicate that you could redraw your Roll from your >> ashheap at the end of combat to replace the Roll that you discarded >> because of the Raptor effect. Is this true? > > The rules of the game indicate that you don't apply card text for > cards that you discard due to hand size reduction (or random discard > effects, either, like Masque of Judas.) The text on Roll only > triggers when you play it as a combat card. Correct, it is not true that card text on Roll indicates that it would apply even when Roll is not played.