rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[LSJ] Disputed Territory / Reality Mirror

3 messages from 3 participants · 18 May 2006 – 19 May 2006
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François

Hello, When setting the terms of a Disputed Territory, can I choose to give a Haven to another Methuselah whose all minions already have other havens on them ? If I can, I guess the moving Haven is then burned, is it right ? Can a vampire play Reality Mirror to use a card he does not meet the non-discipline requirements ? E.g., can a non-anarch vampire play Reality Mirror to use Diversion ? Can Dolphin black play Reality Mirror to use Leathery Hide ? Can Mata Hari play Reality Mirror to use Leathery Hide ? Can a vampire play Reality Mirror to use a card he could not play due to "Once each... " restrictions ? E.g., assuming Louhi has played a Carrion Crows, could she play Reality Mirror on another Carrion Crows in the opposing Methuselah's ash heap ? Thank you, François

John Flournoy

François wrote: > Hello, > > > > When setting the terms of a Disputed Territory, can I choose to give a > Haven to another Methuselah whose all minions already have other havens > on them ? > If I can, I guess the moving Haven is then burned, is it right ? IANLSJ, but I think you are correct here - the targeting requirement of Disputed Territory is just 'another Methuselah', so he'd gain control, have noone to legally place it on and it'd burn. > Can a vampire play Reality Mirror to use a card he does not meet the > non-discipline requirements ? Quoting LSJ from http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/377d3e2d11803287: "It will not override any requirements (except Discipline requirements, per card text) - so it also can't be used for the Anarch combat cards (unless the !Malk has gone Anarch, of course), etc." Therefore: > E.g., can a non-anarch vampire play Reality Mirror to use Diversion ? No. > Can Dolphin black play Reality Mirror to use Leathery Hide ? No. > Can Mata Hari play Reality Mirror to use Leathery Hide ? Yes - the card picked by Reality Mirror is 'played as if from your hand', and Mata Hari can play cards from your hand as if she were the appropriate clan; if Mata Hari were Clan Impersonated to a !Malk she'd be able to use Leathery Hide, so I don't believe playing the Reality Mirror locks her into only playing the resultant card as a !Malk (specifically because Reality Mirror says it's as if from the hand.) > Can a vampire play Reality Mirror to use a card he could not play due > to "Once each... " restrictions ? Nope - again, since reality mirror uses the ability "as if that card had been played from your hand", that 'once each' would restrict it from being played (or played as if) a second time. > E.g., assuming Louhi has played a Carrion Crows, could she play Reality > Mirror on another Carrion Crows in the opposing Methuselah's ash heap ? No. > Thank you, > > François -John Flournoy

LSJ

John Flournoy wrote: > François wrote: > > When setting the terms of a Disputed Territory, can I choose to give a > > Haven to another Methuselah whose all minions already have other havens > > on them ? > > If I can, I guess the moving Haven is then burned, is it right ? > > IANLSJ, but I think you are correct here - the targeting requirement of > Disputed Territory is just 'another Methuselah', so he'd gain control, > have noone to legally place it on and it'd burn. Correct. > > Can a vampire play Reality Mirror to use a card he does not meet the > > non-discipline requirements ? > > Quoting LSJ from > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/377d3e2d11803287: > > "It will not override any requirements (except Discipline > requirements, per card text) - so it also can't be used for the Anarch > combat cards (unless the !Malk has gone Anarch, of course), etc." > > Therefore: > > > E.g., can a non-anarch vampire play Reality Mirror to use Diversion ? > > No. > > > Can Dolphin black play Reality Mirror to use Leathery Hide ? > > No. > > > Can Mata Hari play Reality Mirror to use Leathery Hide ? > > Yes - the card picked by Reality Mirror is 'played as if from your > hand', and Mata Hari can play cards from your hand as if she were the > appropriate clan; if Mata Hari were Clan Impersonated to a !Malk she'd > be able to use Leathery Hide, so I don't believe playing the Reality > Mirror locks her into only playing the resultant card as a !Malk > (specifically because Reality Mirror says it's as if from the hand.) Correct (similarly, "as if from your hand" means that the card can be DI'ed). > > Can a vampire play Reality Mirror to use a card he could not play due > > to "Once each... " restrictions ? > > Nope - again, since reality mirror uses the ability "as if that card > had been played from your hand", that 'once each' would restrict it > from being played (or played as if) a second time. > > > E.g., assuming Louhi has played a Carrion Crows, could she play Reality > > Mirror on another Carrion Crows in the opposing Methuselah's ash heap ? > > No. Correct.