rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[LSJ] Psyche!

12 messages from 7 participants · 11 November 2002 – 13 November 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Emmit Svenson

By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae? Relevant card text: Psyche! [Jyhad, V:TES, FN, CE] Cardtype: Combat Discipline: Celerity [cel] Press. [CEL] Only usable at the end of a combat when both combatants are still ready. Enter combat with the opposing minion. This is a new combat.

John P.

"Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:75bdf7ed.02111...@posting.google.com... > By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat > eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as combat > is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae? Taste of Vitae? Cardtype: Combat Only usable at the end of a round of combat. Not usable by a vampire going into torpor. This vampire gains an amount of blood equal to the amount lost by the opposing vampire to damage during this round of combat. A vampire can play only 1 Taste of Vitae each round. Taste of Vitae is played at the end of a round of combat, not the end of combat (though if there are no presses I guess it is technically the end of combat). Psyche is played after combat. So Taste of Vitae can be played, followed by Psyche, without affecting the Taste in any way. Other "as combat is ending cards" ? None use that phrase exactly, perhaps you mean "after combat". Need more info Psyche will halt effects such as Rostrecht go to torpor effect, Form of Mist and other continue action effects, and effects like Hidden lurker and fast reactions. -JTP

LSJ

Emmit Svenson wrote: > > By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat > eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as combat > is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae? No. Psyche! superior is played after combat. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

reyda

LSJ wrote: > Emmit Svenson wrote: >> >> By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat >> eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as >> combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae? > > No. > Psyche! superior is played after combat. Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of Vitae ? After presses ? Before presses ?

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] At the end of a round. After presses. [ quoted text not captured ]

Flux

LSJ wrote: > reyda wrote: > >>LSJ wrote: >> >>>Emmit Svenson wrote: >>> >>>>By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat >>>>eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as >>>>combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae? >>> >>>No. >>>Psyche! superior is played after combat. >> >>Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of Vitae ? >>After presses ? Before presses ? > > > At the end of a round. > After presses. ...if combat ends at the normal phase (after presses). However, Taste can be played whenever combat ends, and that can happen before presses. For example, if one of the minions goes to torpor during strike resolution, if a S:CE is played, or from a superior Anesthetic Touch. Flux

reyda

LSJ wrote: > reyda wrote: >> >> LSJ wrote: >>> Emmit Svenson wrote: >>>> >>>> By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat >>>> eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as >>>> combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae? >>> >>> No. >>> Psyche! superior is played after combat. >> >> Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of >> Vitae ? After presses ? Before presses ? > > At the end of a round. > After presses. So if you play ToV you automatically decline your opportunity to use a press you gained from an earlier card ?

Flux

[ quoted text not captured ] No. You can only play a Taste of Vitae after the press step (if combat has not ended before that). That means you must have already declared if you are using any presses you gained earlier, and given your opponent the oportunity to use his own presses. You can not skip the press step. Flux

Micah

Flux <fl...@netc.pt> wrote in message news:<3DD040D1...@netc.pt>... [ quoted text not captured ] ... Does this mean that if you send a vampire to torpor, immediatly ending combat, then you cannot play a ToV?... If true that really undermines the value of the card and also that my playgroup has been playing it wrong for a long time.

Flux

[ quoted text not captured ] See my other reply to the original post (and note that above I wrote 'if combat has not ended before that'). You can play Taste whenever combat ends. That will usually happen after presses, but if combat ends (by whatever reason) the round ends, and therefore there's an opportunity to play 'end of round' effects (including Taste) Flux

Markus Schlein

LSJ schrieb: > reyda wrote: > >>LSJ wrote: >> >>>Emmit Svenson wrote: >>> >>>>By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat >>>>eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as >>>>combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae? >>> >>>No. >>>Psyche! superior is played after combat. >> >>Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of Vitae ? >>After presses ? Before presses ? > > > At the end of a round. > After presses. This means, that I can play Tast of Vitae after superior Telepathic Tracking. Correct?

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Before or after - they have the same timing window. [ quoted text not captured ]