rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Bauble and Locquipment [LSJ]

4 messages from 3 participants · 10 December 1997 – 11 December 1997
original thread on Google Groups

James Coupe

JustinF has probably already done this but we have a little problem at the moment. Basically, on the playtest card list, I spotted a loop-hole in the wording of one of the cards which was supposed to let you get out any normal piece of equipment - not unique, or whatever. It all boils down to the fact that a locquipment isn't a location until it's in play. JustinF pointed out that Bauble would, therefore, have exactly the same problem. All it tells you to look for any non-unique, non-location equipment. Since locquipment is equipment when in your library (for the purposes of things like Magic of the Smith) but only a location when in play (AFAIK) I theoretically could get Ruins of Villars Abbey out with a Bauble, burn the Bauble but not have to burn the Ruins because they are no longer equipment and the acting vampire would be fine. Free locquipment. Shite. What is the current ruling on Bauble cos we know how it *should* work but we need to know how it and locquipment currently do work? -- James Coupe (remove items of clothing to reply) I shall personally come around to your houses and drag you out by the scruff of the neck. I shall belt you around the mouth and mouth you around the belt. Do you understand what I'm saying?

David Green

James Coupe wrote: > > JustinF has probably already done this but we have a little problem at > the moment. > > Basically, on the playtest card list, I spotted a loop-hole in the > wording of one of the cards which was supposed to let you get out any > normal piece of equipment - not unique, or whatever. > > It all boils down to the fact that a locquipment isn't a location until > it's in play. JustinF pointed out that Bauble would, therefore, have > exactly the same problem. > > All it tells you to look for any non-unique, non-location equipment. Excuse me? Didn't you just answer your own question? It says to look for non-location equipment. Since Ruins of Villars Abbey, etc. are equipment: location cards, then you would not be able to get them with Bauble. Since Magic of the Smith does not have this wording, since loquipment did not exist when it was written, AFAIK you could use it, but not Bauble. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

James Coupe wrote: > It all boils down to the fact that a locquipment isn't a location until > it's in play. JustinF pointed out that Bauble would, therefore, have > exactly the same problem. > > All it tells you to look for any non-unique, non-location equipment. All the loquipments say "This equipment card represents a unique location" (Dark Sovereigns/Ancient Hearts) or "Equipment, Location. This equipment card represents a unique location." (Sabbat). These are excluded by the card text on Bauble. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

James Coupe

In article <348F0AFC...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu>, David Green <dc...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu> writes >Excuse me? Didn't you just answer your own question? It says to look >for non-location equipment. Since Ruins of Villars Abbey, etc. are >equipment: location cards, then you would not be able to get them with >Bauble. Since Magic of the Smith does not have this wording, since >loquipment did not exist when it was written, AFAIK you could use it, >but not Bauble. No, my point is that they were only supposed to count as locations once in play. When equipping them or fetching them from your library they wouldn't be a location. Which is pretty bad, really. [ quoted text not captured ]