s:ce and fast reaction q (LSJ)

hello all if a minion uses a s:ce that continues his action (such as shadow body sup) and the blocking minion uses a fast reaction at the end of the combat what happens? did the action continues? the action is again blocked and the is a new combat? another one, in 1.6.3.3 says that when a minion is burned the retainers and equipment is also burned, but if its burned by diablerie the biabolizing minion can get that cards no (as says in 6.5.5)? the ratainers canot be taken? bye! Geb

"Geb" <1gan...@teleline.es> a écrit dans le message news: 3ac9e94f...@news.mad.ttd.net... > hello all > > if a minion uses a s:ce that continues his action (such as shadow body > sup) and the blocking minion uses a fast reaction at the end of the > combat what happens? > did the action continues? > the action is again blocked and the is a new combat? the "continue" action effect of form of mist/shadow body is canceled if ANOTHER minion uses fast reaction at the end of this combat =) > another one, in 1.6.3.3 says that when a minion is burned the > retainers and equipment is also burned, but if its burned by diablerie > the biabolizing minion can get that cards no (as says in 6.5.5)? the > ratainers canot be taken? when a minion is burned, all cards on him are burned, with a few exceptions (charnas the imp...) If he's diablerized, the diabolist can only take equipment from him. Retainers cannot be stolen during a diablerie. Maybe because they didn't fit in the vampire's pocket ? > bye! > Geb =) reyda

Geb wrote: > > hello all > > if a minion uses a s:ce that continues his action (such as shadow body > sup) and the blocking minion uses a fast reaction at the end of the > combat what happens? Blocking minion cannot Fast React, but some other minion could. > did the action continues? No the continuance effect is lost. > the action is again blocked and the is a new combat? There is a new combat, but the action is not "reblocked" - is simply doesn't continue. > another one, in 1.6.3.3 says that when a minion is burned the > retainers and equipment is also burned, but if its burned by diablerie > the biabolizing minion can get that cards no (as says in 6.5.5)? the > ratainers canot be taken? Retainers cannot be taken. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

>when a minion is burned, all cards on him are burned, with a few exceptions >(charnas the imp...) >If he's diablerized, the diabolist can only take equipment from him. >Retainers cannot be stolen during a diablerie. Maybe because they didn't fit >in the vampire's pocket ? I could have sworn that I saw somewhere in the instruction booklet about how retainers can't be transferred because they're "loyal" to a particular vampire. Thus you can't re-equip with them nor steal them with diablerie. BTW: Quick question on Charnas since you mentioned him. If the Methusaleh controlling Charnas is ousted, all his cards burn (including Charnas). Is Charnas' ability to be placed on another vampire activated? Halcyan 2

Halcyan 2 wrote: > BTW: Quick question on Charnas since you mentioned him. If the Methusaleh > controlling Charnas is ousted, all his cards burn (including Charnas). Is > Charnas' ability to be placed on another vampire activated? No, since he's burned as well (being controlled by an ousted player). [ quoted text not captured ]