D-Action Q

Can you make directed actions against yourself? Like diablerize one of your own vamps... bobby_doc Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

> Can you make directed actions against yourself? > Like diablerize one of your own vamps... > > bobby_doc If you mak a D-action against yourself, it is no longer considered directed (and your predator and prey can attempt to block it).

"Christoph Scherer" <csch...@frankfurt.fcb.com> wrote: > > Can you make directed actions against yourself? > > Like diablerize one of your own vamps... > > If you mak a D-action against yourself, it is no longer considered > directed (and your predator and prey can attempt to block it). Correct. An action is not directed until the target is declared. If the target is another Methuselah (or something she controls), then the action is directed. If not, it is undirected. [6.2.2] Diablerizing one of your own is undirected. [6.5.4] Rescuing someone else's vampire is directed. [6.5.3] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> a écrit dans le message news: 91vjd1$4j6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com... > Diablerizing one of your own is undirected. [6.5.4] don't you get the usual +1 stealth bonus ? > Rescuing someone else's vampire is directed. [6.5.3] is the rescued vampire forced to pay blood ? can he decide not to pay and stay in torpor (eg fame) ? [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <92116o$fkt$1...@news4.isdnet.net>, "Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote: > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> a écrit dans le message news: > 91vjd1$4j6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com... > > > Diablerizing one of your own is undirected. [6.5.4] > don't you get the usual +1 stealth bonus ? Did you even bother to read the rule quoted? WTF! "6.5.4. Diablerize a Vampire in Torpor To have one vampire diablerize another vampire in torpor, announce the action and tap the acting vampire. If the action is successful, the victim is diablerized (see below). If the action is blocked, the acting vampire and the blocking minion enter combat as normal. This action has a default +1 stealth if the acting vampire and the vampire in torpor have the same controller; otherwise, it is simply a directed action. Allies cannot take this action." > > Rescuing someone else's vampire is directed. [6.5.3] > is the rescued vampire forced to pay blood ? Yes, if it is announced as such when the action is announced. > can he decide not to pay and stay in torpor (eg fame) ? No. The controller of the acting minion makes all decisions about the action. The only way for the vampire to stay in torpor is if its controller (or someone else) blocks. The acting minion's controller may choose to have the rescuee pay any or all of the cost of the rescue. Who will pay what part of the cost is announced when the action is announced. Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://lasombra.tripod.com http://legbiter.tripod.com http://vekn_clans.tripod.com [ quoted text not captured ]

"Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote: > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> a écrit dans le message news: > 91vjd1$4j6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com... > > > Diablerizing one of your own is undirected. [6.5.4] > don't you get the usual +1 stealth bonus ? See the cited rules section. > > Rescuing someone else's vampire is directed. [6.5.3] > is the rescued vampire forced to pay blood ? can he decide not > to pay and stay in torpor (eg fame) ? The cost is paid as per the designation made when the action was announced - decided soley by the action vampire's Methuselah. [ quoted text not captured ]